Re: ITCAMfAD and CA APM (Wily)

Jason,

This information is for WebSphere:

1. Is this a supported configuration by IBM? I've always understood it
isn't.
A.  I don't know the answer to this, this would have to be a question for
IBM support.  This was for a POC and not a production release.

2. Can you share how you achieved it?
A.  There was nothing special required other than at least Java 1.5 (Java
1.4.2 did not work).  We did make the changes to the JVM manually and not
using the DC configuration tool.  This was not a limitation of the product,
it was a requirement from the WAS team they only they make changes to the
JVM arguments.

Anthony



On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 2:43 PM, Jason Forsyth
<Jason.Forsyth-9m31T990Z1pWk0Htik3J/[email protected]>wrote:

> Hi Anthony,
>
> Interesting, and 2 things spring to mind
>
> 1. Is this a supported configuration by IBM? I've always understood it
> isn't.
>
> 2. Can you share how you achieved it?
>
> I don't have an immediate requirement to do this but I have a customer who
> may be moving from Wily to ITCAMAD and this may be a way to expedite the
> migration
>
> Thanks
>
> Regards,
> Jason
>
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> On 27 Jun 2013, at 19:20, "Anthony Segelhorst" <
> anthony.segelhorst-9LkaxTQlAnxWk0Htik3J/[email protected]> wrote:
>
> All,
>
> I have personally done ITCAM AD and Wily in the same JVM on WebSphere.
>  This was done in the fall of 2011.
>
> The only catch if I remember correctly was the JVM for WAS needed to be at
> least version 1.5.  There was issues with Java 1.4.x.
>
> NOTE:  Please make sure and backup the JVM settings before the ITCAM AD
> deploy, assuming Wily is there first.
>
> If you want to talk about Wily and ITCAM in NetWeaver, I believe there is
> a new "fix" from IBM that supports this.  The reason IBM had to "support"
> this was because of the SAP (PI) requiring Wily in the JVM for earlywatch
> monitoring.
>
> Anthony
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 1:18 PM, Manish A. Parikh <[email protected]
> > wrote:
>
>> Jason,****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> You are absolutely correct. From a comparison perspective you could
>> install those products on each separate JVMs like you mentioned (4 JVM with
>> each suited with a diff product).****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> But I don’t think it’s possible to instrument a single JVM with ITCAM for
>> AD and CA APM.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Thank you,****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> V/r,****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> Manish A. Parikh****
>>
>> [email protected]****
>>
>> (919) 720-3699****
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>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* Jason Forsyth [mailto:Jason.Forsyth-9m31T990Z1pWk0Htik3J/[email protected]]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 26, 2013 11:26 AM
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>> *Subject:* RE: [TME10] ITCAMfAD and CA APM (Wily)****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Hi Manish****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> I haven’t heard this. If true I would be very interested to understand
>> how as well as I dont believe it is possible!****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Ive been in situations where Wily, HP Diags and ITCAM DCs are available
>> and the customer want to deploy them in comparison – so in a WAS cell with
>> 4 JVMs you could put one on each JVM and see how they perform, but never
>> co-existing on the same JVM****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Also why would you want to as the overheads would be huge.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Jason****
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>> Behalf Of *Manish A. Parikh
>> *Sent:* 26 June 2013 16:15
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* [TME10] ITCAMfAD and CA APM (Wily)****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> I was told that the newer version of ITCAM for AD 7.0 can co-exist with
>> CA APM (formerly Wily). ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Is that true? If so, how?****
>>
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>> V/r,****
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