RE: Upgrade to ITM 6.2.3 or 6.3 ?
"Redus, James E CIV DISA CSD (US)" <[email protected]> Tue, 29 Oct 2013 14:26:26 +0000
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--===============0200811046== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_087B7894D2E468479A9A241ED6ECE84D1188BFE9UGUNHP3Reasfcsd_" --_000_087B7894D2E468479A9A241ED6ECE84D1188BFE9UGUNHP3Reasfcsd_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for the info John. We are hesitant to go to the latest version, and are more interested in sta= bility versus new features, but another consideration for us is the support= for Java 7 in 6.3. In our environ we are required to keep up-to-date with = Sun/Oracle Java (the latest version of which totally broke the TEP Webstart= ), and it is looking doubtful that 6.2.3 will work with future versions of = Sun JRE7. Thanks again, -James From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]= ] On Behalf Of John Alvord Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 11:02 To: Discussion list for Tivoli product and Tivoli Ready products. Subject: Re: [TME10] Upgrade to ITM 6.2.3 or 6.3 ? You have two potential goals 1) For maximum stability, get the latest maintenance level that is in fix-o= nly status. You can easily spot fix-only status by checking the publication= s. For ITM 623, GA and FP1 have new doc and that means that ITM 623 FP2/FP3= /FP4 are in [mostly] fix only mode. They also have most customer experience= . The [mostly] refers to some serviceability changes that are added in to t= une up the product. [One example is the APAR fix in ITM 623 FP4 to warn whe= n a situation is "Filter object too big"]. 2) For maximum features, get the latest maintenance level. ITM 630 GA/FP1/F= P2 all have doc and so all come from Development and have really amazing ne= w features. Great stuff. But they lack the depth of customer experience and= related APAR fixes. APAR fixes in ITM 623 are usually cloned into ITM 630 - so there is a gener= al overall improvement. You can chose which goal is most important to you and go that way. Just my humble opinion - probably not the official path. Regards, ______________________________________________ John Alvord Advisory Engineer and ITM Historian IBM Tivoli Monitoring 6 Platform Customer Support Office: 1-720-396-2788 Mobile: none jalvord-r/[email protected]<mailto:jalvord-r/[email protected]> Cloud & Smarter Infrastructure<http://www.ibm.com/software/tivoli/> IBM Support Portal<https://www.ibm.com/support/> Open a New Service Request<http://www.ibm.com/support/entry/portal/Open_ser= vice_request/> Update your PMR via Email<https://www-304.ibm.com/jct05001c/de/support/ecur= ep/send_email.html#naming> Escalate your PMR<http://www-304.ibm.com/support/customercare/sas/f/handboo= k/getsupport.html#9> My Blog: Wonderful World of Situations<https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/m= ydeveloperworks/blogs/jalvord> Secure upload to ECUREP<https://www.ecurep.ibm.com/app/upload> From: "Redus, James E CIV DISA CSD (US)" <[email protected]= <mailto:[email protected]>> To: "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" <tme10@l= ists.ca.ibm.com<mailto:[email protected]>>, Date: 10/24/2013 01:53 PM Subject: [TME10] Upgrade to ITM 6.2.3 or 6.3 ? Sent by: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]= a.ibm.com> ________________________________ Hi List, We have been at ITM 6.2.2.5 for a while, and we're looking at upgrading. We= had planned on going to the most current fixpack of 6.2.3, but we are now = considering going to 6.3. Do you have any experiences you could share as fa= r as stability, upgrade problems, etc in going to 6.3? We run mostly OS agents plus a few Agent-Builder and Universal agents, and = we're feeding events thru Omnibus 7.3.1. Thanks in advance for any info you care to share. -James _______________________________________________ TME10 mailing list [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Unsubscribe:[email protected] --_000_087B7894D2E468479A9A241ED6ECE84D1188BFE9UGUNHP3Reasfcsd_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html xmlns:v=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-micr= osoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns:m=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns=3D"http:= //www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii"= > <meta name=3D"Generator" content=3D"Microsoft Word 14 (filtered medium)"> <!--[if !mso]><style>v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} </style><![endif]--><style><!-- /* Font Definitions */ @font-face {font-family:Calibri; panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} @font-face {font-family:Tahoma; panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;} /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {mso-style-priority:99; color:blue; text-decoration:underline;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {mso-style-priority:99; color:purple; text-decoration:underline;} p {mso-style-priority:99; mso-margin-top-alt:auto; margin-right:0in; mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto; margin-left:0in; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";} tt {mso-style-priority:99; font-family:"Courier New";} span.EmailStyle19 {mso-style-type:personal-reply; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D;} .MsoChpDefault {mso-style-type:export-only; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";} @page WordSection1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;} div.WordSection1 {page:WordSection1;} --></style><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapedefaults v:ext=3D"edit" spidmax=3D"1026" /> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapelayout v:ext=3D"edit"> <o:idmap v:ext=3D"edit" data=3D"1" /> </o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--> </head> <body lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple"> <div class=3D"WordSection1"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca= libri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks for the info John.= <o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca= libri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span><= /p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca= libri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">We are hesitant to go to = the latest version, and are more interested in stability versus new feature= s, but another consideration for us is the support for Java 7 in 6.3. In our environ we are required to keep up-to-date with Sun/Oracl= e Java (the latest version of which totally broke the TEP Webstart), and it= is looking doubtful that 6.2.3 will work with future versions of Sun JRE7.= <o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca= libri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span><= /p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca= libri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks again,<o:p></o:p><= /span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca= libri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span><= /p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca= libri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">-James<o:p></o:p></span><= /p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca= libri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span><= /p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca= libri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span><= /p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"= ;Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s= ize:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> tme10-bo= [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] <b>On Behalf Of </b>John Alvord<br> <b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 25, 2013 11:02<br> <b>To:</b> Discussion list for Tivoli product and Tivoli Ready products.<br= > <b>Subject:</b> Re: [TME10] Upgrade to ITM 6.2.3 or 6.3 ?<o:p></o:p></span>= </p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Ar= ial","sans-serif"">You have two potential goals</span> <br> <br> <span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-se= rif"">1) For maximum stability, get the latest maintenance level that = is in fix-only status. You can easily spot fix-only status by checking the = publications. For ITM 623, GA and FP1 have new doc and that means that ITM 623 FP2/FP3/FP4 are in [mostly] fix only mode. They al= so have most customer experience. The [mostly] refers to some serviceabilit= y changes that are added in to tune up the product. [One example is the APA= R fix in ITM 623 FP4 to warn when a situation is "Filter object too big"].</span> <br> <br> <span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-se= rif"">2) For maximum features, get the latest maintenance level. ITM 6= 30 GA/FP1/FP2 all have doc and so all come from Development and have really <b>amazing</b> new features. Great stuff. But they lack the depth of custom= er experience and related APAR fixes.</span> <br> <br> <span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-se= rif"">APAR fixes in ITM 623 are usually cloned into ITM 630 - so there= is a general overall improvement.</span> <br> <br> <span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-se= rif"">You can chose which goal is most important to you and go that wa= y.</span> <br> <br> <span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-se= rif"">Just my humble opinion - probably not the official path.<br> </span><br> Regards, <br> ______________________________________________ <o:p></o:p></p> <table class=3D"MsoNormalTable" border=3D"0" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding= =3D"0" width=3D"433" style=3D"width:324.75pt;border-collapse:collapse"> <tbody> <tr style=3D"height:6.0pt"> <td width=3D"433" style=3D"width:324.75pt;border:solid black 1.0pt;padding:= 0in 0in 0in 0in;height:6.0pt"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <table class=3D"MsoNormalTable" border=3D"0" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding= =3D"0" width=3D"433" style=3D"width:324.75pt;border-collapse:collapse"> <tbody> <tr style=3D"height:6.0pt"> <td width=3D"221" style=3D"width:165.75pt;border:solid black 1.0pt;padding:= 0in 0in 0in 0in;height:6.0pt"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-line-height-alt:6.0pt"><b><span style= =3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">J= ohn Alvord</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial= ","sans-serif""><br> Advisory Engineer and ITM Historian<br> IBM Tivoli Monitoring 6 Platform<b><br> Customer Support </b><br> Office: 1-720-396-2788 <br> Mobile: none <u><span style=3D"color:blue"><br> </span></u></span><a href=3D"mailto:jalvord-r/[email protected]"><span style=3D"font= -size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">jalvord@u= s.ibm.com</span></a><br> <b><u><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sa= ns-serif";color:blue"><br> </span></u></b><a href=3D"http://www.ibm.com/software/tivoli/"><b><span sty= le=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""= >Cloud & Smarter Infrastructure</span></b></a> <o:p></o:p></p> </td> <td width=3D"212" style=3D"width:159.0pt;border:solid black 1.0pt;border-le= ft:none;padding:0in 0in 0in 0in;height:6.0pt"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-line-height-alt:6.0pt"><a href=3D"https= ://www.ibm.com/support/"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"A= rial","sans-serif"">IBM Support Portal</span></a><u><span st= yle=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"= ;color:blue"><br> </span></u><a href=3D"http://www.ibm.com/support/entry/portal/Open_service_= request/"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial",&quo= t;sans-serif"">Open a New Service Request</span></a><u><span style=3D"= font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:= blue"><br> </span></u><a href=3D"https://www-304.ibm.com/jct05001c/de/support/ecurep/s= end_email.html#naming"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Ari= al","sans-serif"">Update your PMR via Email</span></a><u><sp= an style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif&= quot;;color:blue"><br> </span></u><a href=3D"http://www-304.ibm.com/support/customercare/sas/f/han= dbook/getsupport.html#9"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"A= rial","sans-serif"">Escalate your PMR</span></a><u><span sty= le=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";= color:blue"><br> </span></u><a href=3D"https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/b= logs/jalvord"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial",= "sans-serif"">My Blog: Wonderful World of Situations</span></a><u= ><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-se= rif";color:blue"><br> </span></u><a href=3D"https://www.ecurep.ibm.com/app/upload"><span style=3D= "font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Secu= re upload to ECUREP</span></a> <o:p></o:p></p> </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> </td> </tr> <tr style=3D"height:6.0pt"> <td width=3D"433" style=3D"width:324.75pt;border:solid black 1.0pt;border-t= op:none;padding:0in 0in 0in 0in;height:6.0pt"> </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-ser= if";color:#5F5F5F">From: </span><span style= =3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">&= quot;Redus, James E CIV DISA CSD (US)" <<a href=3D"mailto:james.e.r= [email protected]">[email protected]</a>></span> <br> <span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-ser= if";color:#5F5F5F">To: </span><span style= =3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">&= quot;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&q= uot; <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</= a>>, </span><br> <span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-ser= if";color:#5F5F5F">Date: </span><span style= =3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">1= 0/24/2013 01:53 PM</span> <br> <span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-ser= if";color:#5F5F5F">Subject: </span><span st= yle=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"= ">[TME10] Upgrade to ITM 6.2.3 or 6.3 ?</span> <br> <span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-ser= if";color:#5F5F5F">Sent by: </span><span st= yle=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"= "><a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]= ibm.com</a></span> <o:p></o:p></p> <div class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"center" style=3D"text-align:center"> <hr size=3D"2" width=3D"100%" noshade=3D"" style=3D"color:gray" align=3D"ce= nter"> </div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br> <br> <br> <tt><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">Hi List,</span></tt><span style=3D"fon= t-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br> <br> <tt>We have been at ITM 6.2.2.5 for a while, and we're looking at upgrading= . We had planned on going to the most current fixpack of 6.2.3, but we are = now considering going to 6.3. Do you have any experiences you could share a= s far as stability, upgrade problems, etc in going to 6.3? </tt><br> <br> <tt>We run mostly OS agents plus a few Agent-Builder and Universal agents, = and we're feeding events thru Omnibus 7.3.1.</tt><br> <br> <tt>Thanks in advance for any info you care to share.</tt><br> <br> <tt>-James</tt><br> <br> <br> <tt>_______________________________________________</tt><br> <tt>TME10 mailing list</tt><br> <tt><a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a></t= t><br> <tt>Unsubscribe:[email protected]</tt></span><o:p></o:p></p> </div> </body> </html> --_000_087B7894D2E468479A9A241ED6ECE84D1188BFE9UGUNHP3Reasfcsd_-- --===============0200811046== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ TME10 mailing list [email protected] Unsubscribe:[email protected] --===============0200811046==--