RE: Upgrade to ITM 6.2.3 or 6.3 ?
John Alvord <jalvord-r/[email protected]> Tue, 29 Oct 2013 08:06:19 -0700
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This is a multipart message in MIME format. --===============1004244420== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 0052FA8588257C13_=" This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0052FA8588257C13_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" All good points. A recent Oracle Java exposed an ITM issue that is being worked on Prompt for Security Warning Dialog on IBM Tivoli Monitoring Browser Client (TEP) http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21651837 and also this new APAR IV51394 TEP JWS CLIENT DOES NOT START WITH JAVA 7 U45 [Oracle Java 1.7.0u45] The local fix is to use Browser client instead of Java Web Start, Eventually you can track the APAR via this URL http://www.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg1IV51394 I am not prejudiced either way - every path has its advantages. Regards, ______________________________________________ John Alvord Advisory Engineer and ITM Historian IBM Tivoli Monitoring 6 Platform Customer Support Office: 1-720-396-2788 Mobile: none jalvord-r/[email protected] Cloud & Smarter Infrastructure IBM Support Portal Open a New Service Request Update your PMR via Email Escalate your PMR My Blog: Wonderful World of Situations Secure upload to ECUREP From: "Redus, James E CIV DISA CSD (US)" <[email protected]> To: "Discussion list for Tivoli product and Tivoli Ready products." <[email protected]>, Date: 10/29/2013 07:52 AM Subject: RE: [TME10] Upgrade to ITM 6.2.3 or 6.3 ? Sent by: [email protected] Thanks for the info John. We are hesitant to go to the latest version, and are more interested in stability versus new features, but another consideration for us is the support for Java 7 in 6.3. In our environ we are required to keep up-to-date with Sun/Oracle Java (the latest version of which totally broke the TEP Webstart), and it is looking doubtful that 6.2.3 will work with future versions of Sun JRE7. Thanks again, -James From: [email protected] [ mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Alvord Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 11:02 To: Discussion list for Tivoli product and Tivoli Ready products. Subject: Re: [TME10] Upgrade to ITM 6.2.3 or 6.3 ? You have two potential goals 1) For maximum stability, get the latest maintenance level that is in fix-only status. You can easily spot fix-only status by checking the publications. For ITM 623, GA and FP1 have new doc and that means that ITM 623 FP2/FP3/FP4 are in [mostly] fix only mode. They also have most customer experience. The [mostly] refers to some serviceability changes that are added in to tune up the product. [One example is the APAR fix in ITM 623 FP4 to warn when a situation is "Filter object too big"]. 2) For maximum features, get the latest maintenance level. ITM 630 GA/FP1/FP2 all have doc and so all come from Development and have really amazing new features. Great stuff. But they lack the depth of customer experience and related APAR fixes. APAR fixes in ITM 623 are usually cloned into ITM 630 - so there is a general overall improvement. You can chose which goal is most important to you and go that way. Just my humble opinion - probably not the official path. Regards, ______________________________________________ John Alvord Advisory Engineer and ITM Historian IBM Tivoli Monitoring 6 Platform Customer Support Office: 1-720-396-2788 Mobile: none jalvord-r/[email protected] Cloud & Smarter Infrastructure IBM Support Portal Open a New Service Request Update your PMR via Email Escalate your PMR My Blog: Wonderful World of Situations Secure upload to ECUREP From: "Redus, James E CIV DISA CSD (US)" < [email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, Date: 10/24/2013 01:53 PM Subject: [TME10] Upgrade to ITM 6.2.3 or 6.3 ? Sent by: [email protected] Hi List, We have been at ITM 6.2.2.5 for a while, and we're looking at upgrading. We had planned on going to the most current fixpack of 6.2.3, but we are now considering going to 6.3. Do you have any experiences you could share as far as stability, upgrade problems, etc in going to 6.3? We run mostly OS agents plus a few Agent-Builder and Universal agents, and we're feeding events thru Omnibus 7.3.1. Thanks in advance for any info you care to share. -James _______________________________________________ TME10 mailing list [email protected] Unsubscribe:[email protected] _______________________________________________ TME10 mailing list [email protected] Unsubscribe:[email protected] --=_alternative 0052FA8588257C13_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" <font size=2 face="sans-serif">All good points. </font> <br> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">A recent Oracle Java exposed an ITM issue that is being worked on</font> <br> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Prompt for Security Warning Dialog on IBM Tivoli Monitoring Browser Client (TEP)</font> <br><a href="http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21651837"><font size=2 color=blue face="sans-serif">http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21651837</font></a> <br> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">and also this new APAR IV51394 TEP JWS CLIENT DOES NOT START WITH JAVA 7 U45 [Oracle Java 1.7.0u45]</font> <br> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">The local fix is to use Browser client instead of Java Web Start,</font> <br> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Eventually you can track the APAR via this URL</font> <br> <br><a href="http://www.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg1IV51394"><font size=2 face="sans-serif">http://www.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg1IV51394</font></a><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> </font> <br> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">I am not prejudiced either way - every path has its advantages.<br> </font><font size=3><br> Regards, <br> ______________________________________________</font> <table width=433 style="border-collapse:collapse;"> <tr height=8> <td width=433 style="border-style:solid;border-color:#000000;border-width:0px 0px 0px 0px;padding:0px 0px;"><font size=1><br> </font> <table width=433 style="border-collapse:collapse;"> <tr height=8> <td width=221 style="border-style:solid;border-color:#000000;border-width:0px 0px 0px 0px;padding:0px 0px;"><font size=1 face="Arial"><b>John Alvord</b><br> Advisory Engineer and ITM Historian<br> IBM Tivoli Monitoring 6 Platform<b><br> Customer Support </b><br> Office: 1-720-396-2788 <br> Mobile: none </font><font size=1 color=blue face="Arial"><u><br> </u></font><a href=mailto:jalvord-r/[email protected]><font size=1 color=blue face="Arial"><u>jalvord-r/[email protected]</u></font></a><font size=3><br> </font><font size=1 color=blue face="Arial"><b><u><br> </u></b></font><a href=http://www.ibm.com/software/tivoli/><font size=1 color=blue face="Arial"><b><u>Cloud & Smarter Infrastructure</u></b></font></a> <td width=212 style="border-style:solid;border-color:#000000;border-width:0px 0px 0px 0px;padding:0px 0px;"><a href=https://www.ibm.com/support/><font size=1 color=blue face="Arial"><u>IBM Support Portal</u></font></a><font size=1 color=blue face="Arial"><u><br> </u></font><a href=http://www.ibm.com/support/entry/portal/Open_service_request/><font size=1 color=blue face="Arial"><u>Open a New Service Request</u></font></a><font size=1 color=blue face="Arial"><u><br> </u></font><a href="https://www-304.ibm.com/jct05001c/de/support/ecurep/send_email.html#naming"><font size=1 color=blue face="Arial"><u>Update your PMR via Email</u></font></a><font size=1 color=blue face="Arial"><u><br> </u></font><a href="http://www-304.ibm.com/support/customercare/sas/f/handbook/getsupport.html#9"><font size=1 color=blue face="Arial"><u>Escalate your PMR</u></font></a><font size=1 color=blue face="Arial"><u><br> </u></font><a href=https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/jalvord><font size=1 color=blue face="Arial"><u>My Blog: Wonderful World of Situations</u></font></a><font size=1 color=blue face="Arial"><u><br> </u></font><a href=https://www.ecurep.ibm.com/app/upload><font size=1 color=blue face="Arial"><u>Secure upload to ECUREP</u></font></a> <p><a href=https://www.facebook.com/IBMTivolisupport></a><a href=https://twitter.com/TivoliSupport></a><a href=https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/servicemanagement/index.html></a></table> <br> <tr height=8> <td width=433 style="border-style:solid;border-color:#000000;border-width:0px 0px 0px 0px;padding:0px 0px;"><a href=http://www.ibm.com/software/tivoli// target=_new></a></table> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif">From: </font><font size=1 face="sans-serif">"Redus, James E CIV DISA CSD (US)" <[email protected]></font> <br><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif">To: </font><font size=1 face="sans-serif">"Discussion list for Tivoli product and Tivoli Ready products." <[email protected]>, </font> <br><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif">Date: </font><font size=1 face="sans-serif">10/29/2013 07:52 AM</font> <br><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif">Subject: </font><font size=1 face="sans-serif">RE: [TME10] Upgrade to ITM 6.2.3 or 6.3 ?</font> <br><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif">Sent by: </font><font size=1 face="sans-serif">[email protected]</font> <br> <hr noshade> <br> <br> <br><font size=2 color=#004080 face="Calibri">Thanks for the info John.</font> <br><font size=2 color=#004080 face="Calibri"> </font> <br><font size=2 color=#004080 face="Calibri">We are hesitant to go to the latest version, and are more interested in stability versus new features, but another consideration for us is the support for Java 7 in 6.3. In our environ we are required to keep up-to-date with Sun/Oracle Java (the latest version of which totally broke the TEP Webstart), and it is looking doubtful that 6.2.3 will work with future versions of Sun JRE7.</font> <br><font size=2 color=#004080 face="Calibri"> </font> <br><font size=2 color=#004080 face="Calibri">Thanks again,</font> <br><font size=2 color=#004080 face="Calibri"> </font> <br><font size=2 color=#004080 face="Calibri">-James</font> <br><font size=2 color=#004080 face="Calibri"> </font> <br><font size=2 color=#004080 face="Calibri"> </font> <br><font size=2 face="Tahoma"><b>From:</b> [email protected] [</font><a href="mailto:[email protected]"><font size=2 face="Tahoma">mailto:[email protected]</font></a><font size=2 face="Tahoma">] <b>On Behalf Of </b>John Alvord<b><br> Sent:</b> Friday, October 25, 2013 11:02<b><br> To:</b> Discussion list for Tivoli product and Tivoli Ready products.<b><br> Subject:</b> Re: [TME10] Upgrade to ITM 6.2.3 or 6.3 ?</font> <br><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </font> <br><font size=2 face="Arial">You have two potential goals</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> <br> </font><font size=2 face="Arial"><br> 1) For maximum stability, get the latest maintenance level that is in fix-only status. You can easily spot fix-only status by checking the publications. For ITM 623, GA and FP1 have new doc and that means that ITM 623 FP2/FP3/FP4 are in [mostly] fix only mode. They also have most customer experience. The [mostly] refers to some serviceability changes that are added in to tune up the product. [One example is the APAR fix in ITM 623 FP4 to warn when a situation is "Filter object too big"].</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> <br> </font><font size=2 face="Arial"><br> 2) For maximum features, get the latest maintenance level. ITM 630 GA/FP1/FP2 all have doc and so all come from Development and have really <b>amazing</b> new features. Great stuff. But they lack the depth of customer experience and related APAR fixes.</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> <br> </font><font size=2 face="Arial"><br> APAR fixes in ITM 623 are usually cloned into ITM 630 - so there is a general overall improvement.</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> <br> </font><font size=2 face="Arial"><br> You can chose which goal is most important to you and go that way.</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> <br> </font><font size=2 face="Arial"><br> Just my humble opinion - probably not the official path.</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><br> <br> Regards, <br> ______________________________________________ </font> <p> <table width=434 style="border-collapse:collapse;"> <tr height=8> <td width=432 style="border-style:solid;border-color:#000000;border-width:1px 1px 3px 1px;padding:0px 0px;"><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </font> <p> <br> <table width=434 style="border-collapse:collapse;"> <tr height=8> <td width=220 style="border-style:solid;border-color:#000000;border-width:1px 3px 1px 1px;padding:0px 0px;"><font size=1 face="Arial"><b>John Alvord</b><br> Advisory Engineer and ITM Historian<br> IBM Tivoli Monitoring 6 Platform<b><br> Customer Support </b><br> Office: 1-720-396-2788 <br> Mobile: none </font><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><u><br> </u></font><a href=mailto:jalvord-r/[email protected]><font size=1 color=blue face="Arial"><u>jalvord-r/[email protected]</u></font></a><font size=1 color=blue face="Arial"><b><u><br> </u></b></font><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><u><br> </u></font><a href=http://www.ibm.com/software/tivoli/><font size=1 color=blue face="Arial"><b><u>Cloud & Smarter Infrastructure</u></b></font></a><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </font> <td width=209 style="border-style:solid;border-color:#000000;border-width:1px 1px 1px 3px;padding:0px 0px;"><a href=https://www.ibm.com/support/><font size=1 color=blue face="Arial"><u>IBM Support Portal</u></font></a><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><u><br> </u></font><a href=http://www.ibm.com/support/entry/portal/Open_service_request/><font size=1 color=blue face="Arial"><u>Open a New Service Request</u></font></a><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><u><br> </u></font><a href="https://www-304.ibm.com/jct05001c/de/support/ecurep/send_email.html#naming"><font size=1 color=blue face="Arial"><u>Update your PMR via Email</u></font></a><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><u><br> </u></font><a href="http://www-304.ibm.com/support/customercare/sas/f/handbook/getsupport.html#9"><font size=1 color=blue face="Arial"><u>Escalate your PMR</u></font></a><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><u><br> </u></font><a href=https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/jalvord><font size=1 color=blue face="Arial"><u>My Blog: Wonderful World of Situations</u></font></a><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><u><br> </u></font><a href=https://www.ecurep.ibm.com/app/upload><font size=1 color=blue face="Arial"><u>Secure upload to ECUREP</u></font></a><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </font></table> <br> <tr height=8> <td width=432 style="border-style:solid;border-color:#000000;border-width:3px 1px 1px 1px;padding:0px 0px;"></table> <br><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><br> <br> <br> <br> </font><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="Arial"><br> From: </font><font size=1 face="Arial">"Redus, James E CIV DISA CSD (US)" <</font><a href=mailto:[email protected]><font size=1 color=blue face="Arial"><u>[email protected]</u></font></a><font size=1 face="Arial">></font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </font><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="Arial"><br> To: </font><font size=1 face="Arial">"</font><a href=mailto:[email protected]><font size=1 color=blue face="Arial"><u>[email protected]</u></font></a><font size=1 face="Arial">" <</font><a href=mailto:[email protected]><font size=1 color=blue face="Arial"><u>[email protected]</u></font></a><font size=1 face="Arial">>, </font><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="Arial"><br> Date: </font><font size=1 face="Arial">10/24/2013 01:53 PM</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </font><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="Arial"><br> Subject: </font><font size=1 face="Arial">[TME10] Upgrade to ITM 6.2.3 or 6.3 ?</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </font><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="Arial"><br> Sent by: </font><a href="mailto:[email protected]"><font size=1 color=blue face="Arial"><u>[email protected]</u></font></a><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </font> <div align=center> <hr noshade></div> <br><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><br> <br> </font><font size=2 face="Courier New"><br> Hi List,<br> <br> We have been at ITM 6.2.2.5 for a while, and we're looking at upgrading. We had planned on going to the most current fixpack of 6.2.3, but we are now considering going to 6.3. Do you have any experiences you could share as far as stability, upgrade problems, etc in going to 6.3? <br> <br> We run mostly OS agents plus a few Agent-Builder and Universal agents, and we're feeding events thru Omnibus 7.3.1.<br> <br> Thanks in advance for any info you care to share.<br> <br> -James<br> <br> <br> _______________________________________________<br> TME10 mailing list</font><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><u><br> </u></font><a href=mailto:[email protected]><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><u>[email protected]</u></font></a><font size=2 face="Courier New"><br> Unsubscribe:[email protected]</font><tt><font size=2>_______________________________________________<br> TME10 mailing list<br> [email protected]<br> Unsubscribe:[email protected]<br> </font></tt> <br> --=_alternative 0052FA8588257C13_=-- --===============1004244420== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ TME10 mailing list [email protected] Unsubscribe:[email protected] --===============1004244420==--