Re: "van" should sometimes be "Van" - how do I do that?

Carsten Ziegert <[email protected]> Fri, 13 Apr 2007 15:02:05 +0200
Newsgroups gmane.comp.tex.bibtex.jurabib.user
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Mika and all,

I have also problems with Dutch names, but somewhat differently. I do
get "Van den Eynde" at the begin of a footnote but I also get a capital
letter when it is not at the begin, compare e.g.

107 Van den Eynde, ,,Blessed by God=E2=80=94blessed be God=E2=80=9D, S. 418=
 spricht im
Zusammenhang des Segens von performativen Sprechakten.

with

99 Lust, Eynikel, Hauspie, Greek-English Lexicon of the Septuagint, S.
251, vgl. Van den Eynde, ,,Blessed by God =E2=80=94 blessed be God=E2=80=9D=
, S. 415.

I am asking myself if there is a possibility at all to distinguish
between the begin and the end of a footnote.

Yours,
Carsten


Here is my bib entry, followed by my configuration:

@InCollection{eynde:eulogeo,
author =3D {Sabine van den Eynde},
sortkey =3D {eyndevandenblessed},
title =3D {Blessed by God --- blessed be God:
\selectlanguage{polutonikogreek}Eulogew\selectlanguage{ngerman}
and the Concept of Blessing in the LXX with Special Attention to the
Book of Ruth},
shorttitle =3D {Blessed by God --- blessed be God},
booktitle =3D {Interpreting translation: Studies on the LXX and Ezekiel in
Honour of Johan Lust},
pages =3D {S.~415-436},
publisher =3D {Univ. Press},
year =3D {2005},
editor =3D {Florentino {Garc=C3=ADa Mart=C3=ADnez}},
series =3D {Bibliotheca ephemeridum theologicarum Lovaniensium~192},
address =3D {Leuven},
annote =3D {Kopie vorhanden},
}


\bibliographystyle{jox}

jurabib.cfg:

\ProvidesFile{jurabib.cfg}[jurabib local configuration file]
\jurabibsetup{%
citefull=3Dfirst,%
titleformat=3Ditalic,%
titleformat=3Dall,%
titleformat=3Dcommasep,%
ibidem=3Dstrict,%
idem=3Dstrict,%
edby=3Dtrue,%
commabeforerest=3Dtrue,%
lookforgender,
}
%%=20
\AddTo\bibsgerman{%
%
% author, publisher, year
\renewcommand*{\bibapyldelim}{\nolinebreak\hspace{-0.3em},\space}
\renewcommand*{\bibapyrdelim}{}
%
\renewcommand*{\bibatsep}{,}
%\renewcommand*{\bibaesep}{, }
\renewcommand*{\bibbdsep}{,}
\renewcommand*{\bibbtsep}{}
\renewcommand*{\edbysep}{,}
%
\renewcommand*{\editorname}{(Hg.)}
\renewcommand*{\editorsname}{(Hg.)}
\renewcommand*{\edbyname}{Hg.}
\renewcommand*{\Edbyname}{Hg.}
\renewcommand*{\editionname}{Auf\/l.}
\renewcommand*{\ibidemmidname}{ebd.}
\renewcommand*{\ibidemname}{Ebd.}
\renewcommand*{\Volumename}{Bd.}
\renewcommand*{\volumename}{Bd.}
\renewcommand*{\urldatecomment}{vom }
\renewcommand*{\biburlprefix}{\nolinebreak\hspace{-0.3em},\space}
\renewcommand*{\biburlsuffix}{}
\renewcommand*{\etalname}{\unskip\nobreakspace{}u.a.}
%
\renewcommand*{\bibapifont}[1]{\mbox{,\hspace{-0.1em},}#1''}% bib
article/incollection title font
\renewcommand*{\jbapifont}[1]{\mbox{,\hspace{-0.1em},}#1''}% text
article/incollection title font
%
\renewcommand*{\bibidemSmname}{Ders.}
}
%%
%%
%% End of file `jurabib.cfg'.



Am Freitag, den 13.04.2007, 11:04 +0000 schrieb Mika Hietanen:
> Dear list-members,
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> if I remember correctly, some time ago there were some questions about
> names with "van"=20
> on this list. I now have an additional problem in the same category.
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> One of the leading argumentation theorists in the world is Frans H.
> van Eemeren. The fist=20
> time I refer to him in my text everything is ok =E2=80=93 my system gives=
 the
> complete=20
> bibliographical listing the first time (Frans H. van Eemeren, A
> Systematic Theory etc.). All=20
> subsequent references are in a shorter format with family name only
> and a shorttitle (van=20
> Eemeren, Argumentation). However, when these references begin a
> footnote, the "van"=20
> should be "Van".
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> I now get:
> 23. van Eemeren, Argumentation, p. 23.
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> But I would need:
> 23. Van Eemeren, Argumentation, p. 23.
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> If I make a change in the bib-file and change all "van Eemeren" to
> "Van Eemeren" I will get=20
> a capital "V" in many places where I do not want it, so that will not
> work. (Only Belgian=20
> names are always written with a capital "V" in "Van").
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> Is there any way to give an alternative name or something, without
> disturbing the=20
> Bibiography?
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> In Dutch names like these it is not an option to leave out the "van"
> and just write=20
> "Eemeren".
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> My current solution is suggested by the Oxford Guide to Style which
> states that it is=20
> permissible to write "Van ..." also in running text if the given names
> are omitted. If they=20
> are given, however, the form must be "... van ...".
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> I have a book called "A Systematic Theory of Argumentation" by van
> Eemeren and=20
> Grootendorst. It is typeset with LaTeX and I guess the typesetter
> (with OUP!) was unable to=20
> solve this particular problem because all footnotes which should begin
> with "Van=20
> Eemeren", in stead begin "See van Eemeren".
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> I guess this problem persists regardless of any local configurations
> so I will not include a=20
> minimum working example now. If any of you have met with this problem,
> please let me=20
> know! All help is greatly appreciated.
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> Mika Hietanen
> Helsinki
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Carsten Ziegert
http://www.cmziegert.org
Semantic Analysis:
http://www.cmziegert.org/smart




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