Re: Bibtopic/Archival

Dear Hélène,

I cannot reproduce your problems here (MikTeX on Win2000). In both cases 
i get the following order:
Bibliothèque de l`Arsenal (Bibl. Arsenal):
   Recueil Conrart:
   - 5414
Bibliothèque nationale (B.N):
   Collection Dupuy (coll Dupuy):
   - 480
   Manuscrits francais (Ms.)
   - 18431
   - 5185

Apart from that I do it the same way as you do with three different 
files for archives, printed sources and secondary literature. But since 
I still have some problems with @archival I still use @booklet for my 
archival-entries. That is not perfect, but might do. I will have a more 
closer look at the @archival though in the very near future.

I hope I could help you a bit,

Matthias

Hélène Fernandez schrieb:

> Hello,
> 
> I'm having trouble when using together bibtopic and the
> alpha-stage-but-so-oh-so-necessary-to-historians @archival entry.
> The use of bibtopic on a file containing @archival entries mangles the
> order of the entries in the bibliography : see minimal example below.
> 
> So two questions :
> 1- Is is me, or has anybody else encountered the same issue ?
> The manual mentions compatibility between jurabib and bibtopic, as long
> as short titles are mentioned : but the archives have -- alas -- no
> titles. Could that be the origin of the problem ?
> However, adding fake titles to references didn't solve the problem.
> 
> 2- How do you people do ? Is there another solution either to cite
> archives' references, or to make separate bibliographies ? (I have
> three files, archives, printed sources, modern historiography).
> 
> Thanks !
> 
> -- Hélène.
> 
> --
> \documentclass{book}%
> \usepackage[applemac]{inputenc}
> \usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
> \usepackage[english,latin,frenchb]{babel}
> 
> % \usepackage{bibtopic}
> \usepackage{jurabib}
> 
> 
> \begin{document}
> 
> \bibliographystyle{jurabib}
> 
> \chapter{début}
> 
> Ceci est un texte inepte\footcite{ars5414} qui est destiné à
> vérifier certaines\footcite{bn5185} fonctions\footcite{dupuy480}
> de jurabib-archival.
> \cite{bn18431}
> 
> 
> \bibliography{SourcesManuscrites}
> 
> % \begin{btSect}{SourcesManuscrites}
> %    \section{Sources manuscrites}
> %    \btPrintCited
> % \end{btSect}
> 
> \end{document}
> 
> -- .bib file :
> @ARCHIVAL{ars5414,
>     archive         = {Bibliothèque de l'Arsenal},
>     shortarchive    = {Bibl. Arsenal},
>     subarchive      = {Recueil Conrart},
>     sig1            = {5414},
> }
> @ARCHIVAL{bn5185,
>     archive =         {Bibliothèque nationale},
>     shortarchive =    {B.N.},
>     subarchive =      {Manuscrits français},
>     shortsubarchive = {Ms.},
>     sig1 =            {5185},
> }
> @ARCHIVAL{bn18431,
>     archive         = {Bibliothèque nationale},
>     shortarchive    = {B.N.},
>     subarchive      = {Manuscrits français},
>     shortsubarchive = {Ms.},
>     sig1            = {18431},
> }
> @ARCHIVAL{dupuy480,
>     archive         = {Bibliothèque nationale},
>     shortarchive    = {B.N.},
>     subarchive      = {Collection Dupuy},
>     shortsubarchive = {coll. Dupuy},
>     sig1            = {480},
> }
> 
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