Re: Bibtopic/Archival

Thanks. I'll try and think why different systemes should  produce  
different results. And eventually get a look at the @booklet entry.

cheers,
Hélène.

On 19 avr. 05, at 12:06, Matthias Steinbrink wrote:

>
> Dear Hélène,
>
> I cannot reproduce your problems here (MikTeX on Win2000). In both  
> cases
> i get the following order:
> Bibliothèque de l`Arsenal (Bibl. Arsenal):
>    Recueil Conrart:
>    - 5414
> Bibliothèque nationale (B.N):
>    Collection Dupuy (coll Dupuy):
>    - 480
>    Manuscrits francais (Ms.)
>    - 18431
>    - 5185
>
> Apart from that I do it the same way as you do with three different
> files for archives, printed sources and secondary literature. But since
> I still have some problems with @archival I still use @booklet for my
> archival-entries. That is not perfect, but might do. I will have a more
> closer look at the @archival though in the very near future.
>
> I hope I could help you a bit,
>
> Matthias
>
> Hélène Fernandez schrieb:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm having trouble when using together bibtopic and the
>> alpha-stage-but-so-oh-so-necessary-to-historians @archival entry.
>> The use of bibtopic on a file containing @archival entries mangles the
>> order of the entries in the bibliography : see minimal example below.
>>
>> So two questions :
>> 1- Is is me, or has anybody else encountered the same issue ?
>> The manual mentions compatibility between jurabib and bibtopic, as  
>> long
>> as short titles are mentioned : but the archives have -- alas -- no
>> titles. Could that be the origin of the problem ?
>> However, adding fake titles to references didn't solve the problem.
>>
>> 2- How do you people do ? Is there another solution either to cite
>> archives' references, or to make separate bibliographies ? (I have
>> three files, archives, printed sources, modern historiography).
>>
>> Thanks !
>>
>> -- Hélène.
>>
>> --
>> \documentclass{book}%
>> \usepackage[applemac]{inputenc}
>> \usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
>> \usepackage[english,latin,frenchb]{babel}
>>
>> % \usepackage{bibtopic}
>> \usepackage{jurabib}
>>
>>
>> \begin{document}
>>
>> \bibliographystyle{jurabib}
>>
>> \chapter{début}
>>
>> Ceci est un texte inepte\footcite{ars5414} qui est destiné à
>> vérifier certaines\footcite{bn5185} fonctions\footcite{dupuy480}
>> de jurabib-archival.
>> \cite{bn18431}
>>
>>
>> \bibliography{SourcesManuscrites}
>>
>> % \begin{btSect}{SourcesManuscrites}
>> %    \section{Sources manuscrites}
>> %    \btPrintCited
>> % \end{btSect}
>>
>> \end{document}
>>
>> -- .bib file :
>> @ARCHIVAL{ars5414,
>>     archive         = {Bibliothèque de l'Arsenal},
>>     shortarchive    = {Bibl. Arsenal},
>>     subarchive      = {Recueil Conrart},
>>     sig1            = {5414},
>> }
>> @ARCHIVAL{bn5185,
>>     archive =         {Bibliothèque nationale},
>>     shortarchive =    {B.N.},
>>     subarchive =      {Manuscrits français},
>>     shortsubarchive = {Ms.},
>>     sig1 =            {5185},
>> }
>> @ARCHIVAL{bn18431,
>>     archive         = {Bibliothèque nationale},
>>     shortarchive    = {B.N.},
>>     subarchive      = {Manuscrits français},
>>     shortsubarchive = {Ms.},
>>     sig1            = {18431},
>> }
>> @ARCHIVAL{dupuy480,
>>     archive         = {Bibliothèque nationale},
>>     shortarchive    = {B.N.},
>>     subarchive      = {Collection Dupuy},
>>     shortsubarchive = {coll. Dupuy},
>>     sig1            = {480},
>> }
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