Re: bibliography with certain canonical reference

Julian,

Thanks — that is very useful, and I think we are now essentially there.

Since |righttext| is appended literally after the author, could you try 
including the comma there as well?

(\cite
[alternative=author,
righttext={{, ca. 350 BCE/2009}}]
[main::aristotle2009ethics])

If it behaves as your previous test suggests, this should give:

(Aristotle, ca. 350 BCE/2009)

That would be a pleasantly simple solution: |alternative=author| 
supplies the author, while |righttext| supplies the historical/edition 
dating information without requiring any change to the bibliography data 
or the APA rendering itself.

It would also be worth checking afterwards whether the outer parentheses 
can be handled by the citation machinery itself, but I would first 
confirm this minimal form.

JP

* Aristotle might add one complication: if character is formed by 
repeated action, those repeated actions cannot themselves be normatively 
neutral. A just /hexis/ (ἕξις) requires the practice of just actions, 
which in turn requires some prior account of what counts as just. This 
is one reason why the /Nicomachean Ethics/ leads so naturally into the 
/Politics/: the formation of character depends on laws, education, and 
ultimately on the ordering of the political community.


Le 17/08/2026 à 11:16, jbf a écrit :
>
> Before retiring for the night I have quickly checked out your 
> suggestion (and don't worry about the change of date to 2009, since 
> this is the real date I need to deal with):
>
> [alternative=author,
>
> righttext={{ca. 350 BCE/2009}}]
>
> [main::aristotle2009ethics]
>
>
> produces:
>
> Aristotle ca. 350 BCE/2009
>
> Nearly there, so to get parentheses around it and produce (Aristotle, 
> ca. 350 BCE/2009), this is how I treated the entire paragraph where 
> the citation appears:
>
>
> Aristotle understood that character is formed through repeated action. 
> We become just or unjust, courageous or cowardly, temperate or 
> self-indulgent through what we repeatedly choose and practise (\cite
>
> [alternative=author,
>
> righttext={{ca. 350 BCE/2009}}]
>
> [main::aristotle2009ethics]). Actions become habits, habits shape 
> character, and character influences what becomes easier or harder to 
> perceive and choose. Human beings remain capable of change, but 
> freedom gradually acquires a history.
>
>
> Julian
> On 17/8/26 17:35, Jean-Pierre Delange via ntg-context wrote:
>>
>> No problem at all, Julian — take your time. Translation work has a 
>> way of absorbing the whole day!
>> I’ll be interested to hear what you get from the test when you have a 
>> chance to try it.
>> Have a good evening.
>>
>> JP
>>
>>
>> Le 17/08/2026 à 09:07, jbf a écrit :
>>>
>>> Caught up in other work right now JP (translation), and already 
>>> evening here, so it might be tomorrow before I can get back to this. 
>>> I'll let you know how it goes.
>>>
>>> Julian
>>>
>>
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