Re: Automatically notifying about SD-JSON lineup changes

On 07/07/2016 00:28, Kevin Groeneveld wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 2:40 PM, Gary Buhrmaster 
> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> >I'm using tv_grab_sd_json, with selected channels from the
> >GBR-0001207-DEFAULT lineup (Oxford UK Freeview DVB-T transmissions). I
> >first set this up a week ago, and among the channels I picked was one
> >that the grabber called "Channel 5 Plus 24 (Free)" and which had ID
> >97294. All was fine for a few dyas.
>
> In addition to the good information that Gary already postedI thought 
> I would add one point:
>
> If you configured tv_grab_sd_json to use the entire lineup instead of 
> selecting specific channels then you would always get all the channels 
> in the output even when the lineup changes.  Depending how MythTV is 
> configured I think it can automatically add new channels to it's 
> database if they are present in the XMLTV output. Although I seem to 
> recall having issues with this when I last tried it.  And if the 
> lineup has a lot of crap in it you really don't want this could be 
> more annoying than your current situation.  Although I think you can 
> hide channels in MythTV?  Something to consider anyways.
>
> Kevin

Thanks Kevin. Unfortunately the entire lineup (which for me, according 
to https://json.schedulesdirect.org/20141201/transmitters/GBR picking 
the Oxford transmitter, is GBR-0001207-DEFAULT) seems to contain 80+ 
channels which are not actually transmitted from that transmitter, 
including Sky 1, Sky Movies, Comedy Central. I don't know why this is. I 
have reported this to Schedules Direct and Robert K said that when he 
asked Gracenote about this when it has previously come up, they replied:

> "Freeview" represents UK's digital terrestrial television (DTT). The FULL range of channels broadcast via UK's DTT includes free, subscription and pay television services from operators such as VuTV and BT. All the channels from 300 to 599 are optional IPTV channels - available only if the customer is using a single set-top-box for Freeview and an additional service provider like VuTV, BT or TalkTalk. It is still one box.
>
> "Freeview" is the name of the platform and NOT a statement that all channels are "free". The end user may be only focusing on the "free" portion and not the FULL line-up.
That personally doesn't make sense to me. Freeview is, as far as I know, 
95%+ of channels broadcast on DVB-T/DVB-T2 in UK. There are a handful of 
encrypted channels on DVB-T which as far as I'm concerned are not 
Freeview - the "famous" provider (I think now defunct) used to be called 
Top-Up TV, and there was a bit of a grey area in the general population 
between Freeview and Top-Up TV, although as I say, I would personally 
not include the Top-Up TV channels as part of Freeview.

But the IPTV (i.e. streaming over the Internet) channels they mention 
are nothing to do with Freeview as far as I'm concerned - just because 
one box can show Freeview and streaming doesn't make streaming part of 
Freeview or DVB-T. They are completely different platforms.

It's not a massive problem, as I can say "no" to the channels I don't 
want, but it is a potential source of confusion and is, I think, 
basically "wrong" to include all the channels I mentioned as if they 
were broadcast from the Oxford transmitter or any other DVB-T/DVB-T2 
transmitter.

John

-- 
John Veness, MythTV user, UK, DVB-T

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Attend Shape: An AT&T Tech Expo July 15-16. Meet us at AT&T Park in San
Francisco, CA to explore cutting-edge tech and listen to tech luminaries
present their vision of the future. This family event has something for
everyone, including kids. Get more information and register today.
http://sdm.link/attshape

_______________________________________________
xmltv-devel mailing list
[email protected]
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xmltv-devel