Re: UK-RT Grabber Prog Titles To Process Change Requests Thread

On 18 October 2010 23:23,  <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 18/10/10 10:01, Nigel Jewell wrote:
>>
>>> Currently in the listings I see:
>>>
>>> Have I Got News For You (BBC1 and Dave)
>>> Have I Got Old News For You (Dave)
>>> Have I Got A Bit More News For You (BBC2)
>>>
>>> Is everyone happy for the following change as proposed by John:
>>>
>>> Have I Got Old News For You ->  Have I Got News For You
>>>
>>> I think it's sensible to keep the regular and "Bit More" versions
>>> separately-titled, in the same manner that QI and QI XL exist on
>>> BBC/Dave. Thoughts?
>>
>> Personally I think that they should stay as they are.  Obviously, the
>> "Old" indicates that the program isn't current and if it is removed those
>> that are only interested in current episodes will end up recording a stack
>> of stuff they don't want.  It is easier to add the extra recording profile
>> for "Have I Got Old News For You" for those that are really interested in
>> "Old" episodes.
>>
>> Regards,
>
> Unfortunately some old eps are shown as "Have I Got News For You" and
> some as "Have I Got Old News For You" with seemingly no logic (episodes
> in the same season are shown with either title, so it doesn't seem to be
> a cut-off date thing). So your user recording just "Have I Got News For
> You" in the hope of getting new eps only, is already getting (some) old eps.
>
> Anyway, we don't usually rename program titles just because they are
> repeats, e.g. "Mock the Old Week", "Old QI", so I don't see why HIGNFY
> should be different.

I agree with John here, based on the current HIGNFY data. The grabber
already retitles other programmes called "New ..." to their normal
versions for consistency, and repeats of a programme should have the
same title as their first showing if the content is the same. The
Radio Times data can and does flag repeats (although not always), and
recordings of first showings can easily be limited to the channel they
air on (BBC1 for the regular HIGNFY broadcast, Dave for repeats)
without requiring special treatment of their title.

The grabber has no means of rewriting titles on specific channels, and
in this particular case, there is already the problem (as John points
out) of the Dave repeats having 2 different titles for the _same_
content.

> I agree that "Bit More" should be titled differently, just like "QI XL",
> as it is different content, but the other two titles are for exactly the
> same content and same on-screen title.

Agreed. Will update the fixups to rename "Have I Got Old News for You"
to "Have I Got News for You". If users notice other programmes which
have similar titling changes (same content, different titles) please
post details.

Cheers,
Nick

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