Re: xmltv-users Digest, Vol 62, Issue 1

2011/7/1 <[email protected]>

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>   1. Re: question about copyright, licensing (dekarl)
>   2. Newsgroups discontinued but still listed. (Stephen H. Fischer)
>   3. Re: Newsgroups discontinued but still listed. (Nick Morrott)
>   4. Re: UK-RT Grabber Prog Titles To Process Change Requests
>      Thread (nospam312)
>   5. Re: Newsgroups discontinued but still listed. (Robert Eden)
>   6. Re: Newsgroups discontinued but still listed. (Nick Morrott)
>   7. XMLTV Project (cherqui nawfal)
>   8. Re: XMLTV Project (David Watkins)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 15:44:03 +0200 (CEST)
> From: dekarl <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [xmltv-users] question about copyright, licensing
> To: "Using the xmltv programs" <[email protected]>
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> Hi Djordje, taking it back to the list...
>
>
> it's gotten a big long, but it all comes down to:
> Someone has to do some real work and they likely won't work for free.
>
>
> >well we got .xml for HBO directly from tv station distributor so far. and
> that seems
> >to work fine. for others we lack both importer and data.
> >
> >I was hoping to get some kind of 'xmltv license', in order to simply use
> >just one importer, xmltv, instead of making my own for each channel.
>
> The 'xmltv license' handles the xmltv format, library and programs. There
> is no common
> license for the data that goes in and out of the programs.
>
> Someone somewhere is going to have to do the real work of collecting the
> programme
> from various sources and bring it into a common format, maybe cross linking
> it to a
> series/movie database with well written loglines. Some of the aggregators
> offer their
> consolidated programme free of charge for personal non-commercial use. But
> all that I
> know want to get payed if you make money from their work. (they are
> licensing much
> of the content themselves, e.g. from movie databases of other companies)
>
>
> You might want to talk to goNix (tv_grab_hr) and port.rs (a subsidary of
> the aggregator
> behing tv_grab_huro) about how much they invest into their EPG and what
> they charge
> for premade EPG Feeds. Then base your decision on that data.
>
> >I thought, if we already pay for program distribution, epg would not need
> some extra payment.
> >but I'm just an engineer, not lawyer.
>
> I don't know either.
>
> >Does anyone 'verify' xmltv epg data? Is xmltv made for home use with TV
> cards and similar,
> >not broadcast?
>
> The xmltv grabbers are targeted mainly at end users. I don't understand
> what you mean
> when you say "verify". It could mean some right aquisition, check if the
> time and title match
> the broadcasted program or check that the files follow the format
> definition.
>
>
> You can think of xmltv as the piping between lots of data services (the
> aggregators) and lots
> of data consumers (the various TV software packages).
>
> NonameTV works just like that. You have an adapter from the custom HBO
> format into the
> common xmltv format which ends up in the programme database. This gets then
> converted
> from the common xmltv into common DVB-SI with the custom Conax exporter.
> (there could
> be a common base class for DVB-SI, but it's not there yet)
>
> Regards,
> Karl
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 20:39:06 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Stephen H. Fischer <[email protected]>
> Subject: [xmltv-users] Newsgroups discontinued but still listed.
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> Hi,
>
> I was trying to find the latest xmlTV version and found that two of the
> four
> newsgroups on:
>
> http://wiki.xmltv.org/index.php/XMLTVProject#Mailing_lists
>
> are gone.
>
> Announce and cvs.
>
> Perhaps announcements could be made here listing the latest version and a
> link to the download page.
>
> TIA
>
> SHF
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 12:44:23 +0100
> From: Nick Morrott <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [xmltv-users] Newsgroups discontinued but still listed.
> To: Using the xmltv programs <[email protected]>
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> On 22 June 2011 21:39, Stephen H. Fischer <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I was trying to find the latest xmlTV version and found that two of the
> four
> > newsgroups on:
> >
> > http://wiki.xmltv.org/index.php/XMLTVProject#Mailing_lists
> >
> > are gone.
> >
> > Announce and cvs.
> >
> > Perhaps announcements could be made here listing the latest version and a
> > link to the download page.
>
> I have updated the wiki page to remove links to -announce and -commits
> lists.
>
> Release notifications have been made to the regular xmltv-users list
> for several years. Details of the latest stable release and a link to
> download it are always available on the wiki homepage at
> http://wiki.xmltv.org.
>
> Cheers,
> Nick
>
> --
> Nick Morrott
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 18:13:53 +0100
> From: nospam312 <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [xmltv-users] UK-RT Grabber Prog Titles To Process Change
>        Requests Thread
> To: Using the xmltv programs <[email protected]>
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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>
> Reason: Following existing convention of getting all these under the same
> title
> Was: Embarrassing Fat Bodies
> Title: Embarrassing Bodies
> Subtitle: Fat Bodies
>
> Note
> ------
> Not a title change but anyone watching the new series "8 Out Of 10
> Cats" or "King Of" there are spin offs of these shows called "8 Out Of
> 10 Cats Uncut" and "King Of Uncut".
>
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 15:59:23 -0500
> From: Robert Eden <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [xmltv-users] Newsgroups discontinued but still listed.
> To: Using the xmltv programs <[email protected]>
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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>
> On 6/23/2011 6:44 AM, Nick Morrott wrote:
> > I have updated the wiki page to remove links to -announce and -commits
> lists.
> > Release notifications have been made to the regular xmltv-users list
> > for several years. Details of the latest stable release and a link to
> > download it are always available on the wiki homepage at
> > http://wiki.xmltv.org.
> >
> I'm still surprised that those lists disappeared.  I still see them on SF,
> just no activity in announce for a while (even though I've sent posts) and
> notthing in CVS since Jan.  When I commit stuff, I am seeing a /bin/mail
> error that needs to be looked in to.
>
> Robert
>
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 23:49:37 +0100
> From: Nick Morrott <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [xmltv-users] Newsgroups discontinued but still listed.
> To: Using the xmltv programs <[email protected]>
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> On 23 June 2011 21:59, Robert Eden <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On 6/23/2011 6:44 AM, Nick Morrott wrote:
> >> I have updated the wiki page to remove links to -announce and -commits
> lists.
> >> Release notifications have been made to the regular xmltv-users list
> >> for several years. Details of the latest stable release and a link to
> >> download it are always available on the wiki homepage at
> >> http://wiki.xmltv.org.
> >>
> > I'm still surprised that those lists disappeared. ?I still see them on
> SF, just no activity in announce for a while (even though I've sent posts)
> and
> > notthing in CVS since Jan. ?When I commit stuff, I am seeing a /bin/mail
> error that needs to be looked in to.
>
> I am not sure about the announce list becoming dormant, even to new
> posts. The archive is still available on the SF site.
>
> The -commits list feed was (IIRC) a casualty of the SF site rebuild
> after the compromise at the beginning of the year. The broken commit
> hook handler is why commits are accompanied with error messages.
> According to comments of SF's trac system [1] the syncmail script
> should be updated to point to sendmail to get things working again.
> Another link [2] may also be of use.
>
> [1] https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sourceforge/ticket/17823
> [2] https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sourceforge/wiki/CVS%20syncmail
>
> Cheers,
> Nick
>
> --
> Nick Morrott
>
> MythTV Official wiki: http://mythtv.org/wiki/
> MythTV users list archive:
> http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users
>
> "An investment in knowledge always pays the best interest." - Benjamin
> Franklin
>
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 11:50:11 +0200
> From: cherqui nawfal <[email protected]>
> Subject: [xmltv-users] XMLTV Project
> To: [email protected]
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> Hello ,
> I am doing a project of streaming DVB-T and DVB-S channels in switzerland ,
> i am using VLC and DVBLAST softwars. Now i would like to add the EPG to my
> channels so i can have it in my netbox and in vlc client.
> I followed the tv_find_grabbers steps i got the tv_grab_ch_search.conf file
> but i don't know what is next .
> I am new in this field and this is my first experience.
> Can some one help.
>
> Thank you
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> Nawfal
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> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 11:33:48 +0100
> From: David Watkins <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [xmltv-users] XMLTV Project
> To: Using the xmltv programs <[email protected]>
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> On 1 July 2011 10:50, cherqui nawfal <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Hello ,
> > I am doing a project of streaming DVB-T and DVB-S channels in switzerland
> ,
> > i am using VLC and DVBLAST softwars. Now i would like to add the EPG to
> my
> > channels so i can have it in my netbox and in vlc client.
> > I followed the?tv_find_grabbers steps i got the tv_grab_ch_search.conf
> file
> > but i don't know what is next .
>
> Don't know about the swiss version but in the UK I run
>
> tv_grab_uk_rt --config-file tv_grab_uk_rt.conf --output freeview.xmltv
>
> which produces an xmltv format text file (freeview.xmltv) containing
> programme listings.  You then need to 'persuade' your application to
> read that file.
>

I works for switzerland too thank you: but if i want to choos the channels
to put in the xmltv file not all of them how can i do it ?

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