Re: Graph Display

Am 26.07.2004 um 20:20 schrieb Claus Ilginnis:

>
> Hi
> Ok, ok, you sound like some of my colleagues :-)
> what else do you want ? :-)
> :-) No to be serious :
> What I am thinking off,
> is just the revision and the author
> the revision date and the beginning of the
> comment ... would look like
>
>  ---------------------------
> | 1.4 - cilginnis           |
> | 2004/07/26 Mon 16:05      |
> | Finished design wi...     |
>  ---------------------------
>
> the comment would be reduced to about 20 characters,
> eventually followed by an ellipsis.
> The whole feature perhaps as a display option ...

I'd keep the information displayed inline at a minimum in order to not 
loose the overview of the graph display.
However, displaying the first few characters of the comment *does* 
sound interesting.

>
> What are you talking about copying to the clipboard ?
> I think I got a really old version here ;-)
> When there's enough enthusiasm left I can look for it :-)
>
> I think tooltips don't make sense because all you see is
> there . and in my opinion the full comment should
> not be displayed in a tooltip, don't you think ?

Well, that was exactly the idea - the tooltips will show up when you 
hover above a node, so it seems like a reasonable way to show the 
comments in case you're interested.

>
> What I find more interesting and to achieve with
> a little effort is the collapse thing ...
> ( When there's enough enthusiasm left I can look for it :-) )
>
> But first of all - I want the author - comment and date :-)
> Nothing more - nothing less ...
> And I see your interested in ... ok ... so let's get detailed ...
> do you want a checkbox in the options dialog for that feature?

Again, I'd first just trigger any optional display based on a 
preference variable (CPersistentBool). It's very easy to add preference 
options later on, once it's decided what really needs to be user 
configurable.
Candidates for optional display would be the amount of information to 
display inline in the graph nodes as well as whether tooltips 
containing the entire comments should be displayed.

> The changes I want to made are only specific to
> windows ... but I think/hope this isn't quite a problem ?

Just try to keep an eye on what code might be worth sharing and try to 
factor out common parts.

>
> Ok, think that's enough for today  ... :-)
>
> Best regards
> Claus
>
> PS ... but a little idea
> came up to me while writing this mail ... what about
> the following ... (just a mind game and I mean really just a mind 
> game).
> Combining the collapsability with the comment display ...
> would look like this :
>
> ---------------------------------
> | 1.4 - cilginnis           |_+_|     <--- click this plus to display
> | 2004/07/26 Mon 16:05      | + |     <--- the branches and this for 
> the
> ---------------------------------          comment

Instead of doing this, I'd rather go for a proper outline view (or 
whatever you'd call a hierarchical table like the browser views).
That way, users would know what to expect from the view and it would be 
a standard UI element.
However, the current graph does have it's advantages over a plain tree 
view control, so this should be an alternative way of viewing the file 
history...

>
> Jens Miltner wrote:
>
>> Am 26.07.2004 um 10:59 schrieb Oliver Giesen:
>>
>>
>>
>>>> I am going to slightly rewrite
>>>> the graph option ...
>>>> so that the author and the
>>>> revision date and the
>>>> comment are displayed in the
>>>> graph.
>>>> So now I can do this only for me
>>>> hardcoded quick-and-dirty style
>>>> or the proper way for all ...
>>>> (I think the graph-options-Dialog can hold
>>>> some checkboxes more)
>>>>
>>>> So the question is:
>>>> 1.) Are you interested in this feature ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Personally I would be. That said, here's my feature request in case 
>>> you
>>> are really going to implement that... ;) :
>>> Make the individual revisions' detail data collapsible, so that I 
>>> could
>>> expand only those nodes that interest me while still keeping the
>>> general
>>> "timeline" visible. Always displaying all revision comments inside 
>>> the
>>> Graph could otherwise result in a rather crowded view. Some of our
>>> revision comments often exceed 20 lines of text and more.
>>> Oh, and make sure the texts could still be selected and copied to the
>>> clipboard... ;)
>>>
>>> Thinking about it... maybe a simple tooltip window showing the 
>>> revision
>>> details in addition to the existing click-behaviour (for the
>>> select/copy
>>> tasks) would already be sufficient?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> A tooltip is what I'd suggest - it's much easier to implement (the
>> graph is not really suitable for resizing one of the boxes as all
>> others would have to shift to make space, etc.) and it will give you
>> the information if you're interested.
>>
>> I still think, adding the name and date to the revision box may be a
>> good option, since these are details that are of known size (i.e. 
>> small
>> enough to keep the general tree structure visible) yet they might be
>> helpful when quickly browsing through the tree. Also, I'd at least
>> display them conditionally based on the setting of a persistent bool
>> value, even if that option is not [yet] exposed in the UI...
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> 2.) Is something else planned ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Nothing that I know about. Kalle? Jerzy? Jens?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Nothing planned from my end at the moment...
>>
>> </jum>

</jum>


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