Re: Hello to all and my first question

Arthur,

Thanks for your observations and I apologize to all - I see that I sent 
this down the wrong channel.


Arthur Barrett wrote:
>
> Joseph,
>
> Your question does not appear to be about WinCVS - you should post to 
> the CVSNT or TortoiseCVS forums instead. This is off topic.
>
> These links are directly from the cvsnt.org/wiki and tortoisecvs.org 
> web sites:
> CVSNT:
> http://www.cvsnt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cvsnt 
> <http://www.cvsnt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cvsnt>
> or
> news://news.cvsnt.org/support.cvsnt <news://news.cvsnt.org/support.cvsnt>
> TortoiseCVS:
> http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=48103 
> <http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=48103>
>
> I do not think that the Word XML format is actually that good for 
> diff/merge - particularly for "novices".
>
> When working with documents it is far more common to use a 'reserved' 
> approach where a document must be 'reserved' before work begins and 
> becomes 'unreserved' when it is committed - CVSNT supports this as 
> does TCVS - just put *.doc -kbx (or *.docx -kox) in cvswrappers in 
> CVSROOT and commit it and in the CVSNT server control panel under 
> compatibility options enable 'ignore client side kopt' so that TCVS 
> does not override the preference.
>
> To 'reserve' a file the user uses 'cvs edit' - the files should appear 
> read-only by default so word will open the files in read-only mode 
> unless the user does 'cvs edit'.
>
> Forcing the user to be prompted for a commit message on save is not 
> currently possible using any tool or technique I know of.
>
> March Hare Software (who are the primary contributors to CVSNT) do 
> have a product that can automatically commit changes to files whenever 
> they are written called CVS4S (originally conceived for people who 
> primarily work with documents) however it does not provide a way for 
> the user to enter comments (since it is entirely 'automatic') and is 
> not currently for sale though is in use internally and with at least 
> one customer. Contact [email protected] 
> <mailto:sales%40march-hare.com> if you are interested in this - you 
> will also require CVS Suite or CVS Professional (the 'commercial' 
> CVSNT Server and client tools).
>
> I think what you are actually looking for is something like MS 
> Sharepoint - which is nicely integrated with MS Word. Again - March 
> Hare Software are developing the 'next gen' CVSNT (evscm.org) and we 
> already provide a beta showing WebDAV like Sharepoint, but the 
> specific MS Word stuff is not in there yet, and probably wont be for a 
> while. If you are interested in that the best path would be to try 
> Sharepoint and if that looks like what you want then join the EVS 
> newsgroup to lobby for or contribute specific functions you want 
> included (or just use Sharepoint).
>
> Finally "CVS Suite" (the non-free version of CVSNT) does contain 
> WinMerge with extensions that allow "textual" diffing (though not 
> merge) of MS Word, MS PowerPoint and MS Excel files including document 
> properties (but not visual elements like bold/italic and images).
>
> Regards,
>
> Arthur Barrett
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] <mailto:cvsgui%40yahoogroups.com> on 
> behalf of Joseph Norris
> Sent: Tue 8/26/2008 1:09 AM
> To: [email protected] <mailto:cvsgui%40yahoogroups.com>
> Cc:
> Subject: [cvsgui] Hello to all and my first question
>
> Hello,
>
> I will give you the situation that I am working with and I would
> appreciate any and all recommendations.
>
> I have used CVS as a developer for many years to keep track of my source
> code, mods, merges etc.... Now I have a project where administrators
> have come to me seeking a method to keep track of the same thing but
> with there policy and office documents. I have CVSNT installed on the
> windows 2003 file server we are using and I have installed on my local
> box tortoiseCVS. My hope is to get this to be as simple and seamless as
> possible. The office staff are going to begin to save all documents in
> XML format.
>
> Although tortoiseCVS appears to be simple - ties in with the windows
> file explorer - I would like to make even simpler than that. I am
> looking for a method - via scripts or whatever - by which the users can
> check in and check out - force comments on each action and show
> conflicts when they happen. If you are say - this guy wants a "silver
> bullet" - yes - that would be nice but I know there are no such things.
>
> thanks.
>
> -- 
> Joseph Norris
> Application Developer & Server Adminstrator
> 209-228-4576
> [email protected] <mailto:jnorris%40ucmerced.edu>
>
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-- 
Joseph Norris
Application Developer & Server Adminstrator
209-228-4576
[email protected]


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