Re: ATI Radeon M6 LY in Edgy - does some crashing - how do I debug?

On 11/2/06, Jacob <[email protected]> wrote:
> EDIT: My message bounced, so you should see the links at the bottom for
> the attached images.
>
> OK, well, the fix fixed some of the crashes, but most appear after some
> use. I suspect that there's still a memory bug, cause it only sometimes
> crashes when something new happens, or two or more things happen together.
> I need to know how to get some sort of error that I can use to debug this.
>
> I've provided snapshots of what the screens look like, in hopes that they
> give you information. I've listed below the four different crashes that
> can occur. I've labeled the attached screenshots as Crash1, Crash2,
> Crash3, etc. (If the attachments didn't come through, see bottom of
> message for links to uploaded versions.) Sorry about the fuzziness of some
> of them. I turned off flash so the screens wouldn't be darkened.
>
>
>    * Crash #1: Screen goes all TV-like. The computer screen is all screwey,
> but the rest of the computer is still responsive. In other words, I can
> still goto Ctrl+Alt+F1, and restart GDM. In this particular crash shown
> (which looks slightly different then what it normally looks like) I could
> go to Ctrl+Alt+F1, and everything would clear up (Crash1-2). Normally
> things would still be all TV-scrolly like. I was able to go back to Gnome
> (Crash1-3).
>

weird.  these don't look like crashes per se, more like problems with
the PLLs or the display controller.

>    * Crash #2: Screen fades into a whitish negative kind of look. Computer
> kernel seems to still be operating, since I can execute the emergency
> Alt+SysRq+S (sync disks), Alt+SysRq+U (unmount, remount), Alt+SysRq+B
> (reboot) commands. This particular screenshot was taken during BZFlag. I
> found that if I didn't let the map list fully load, the computer would
> crash.

This also looks display related.

>
>    * Crash #3: Screen just plain freezes. As I mentioned before, this crash
> occured when I was loading something new, in this case, Firefox
> Preferences.
>

this is more symptomatic of a crash.

>
> Thanks for patiently reading through my messages and trying to help me
> out! At this point the crashes are fairly far apart (about 1-2 hours) so
> it is manageable, but I'd really like to get something good and stable,
> where I only get crashes once or twice a week (like with Dapper).
>

I would say go ahead and open a bug for this
(https://bugs.freedesktop.org) and let me know when you do so.
explain the problem and inlcude that links to yor screenshots and what
you've done so far.  If you are feeling brave you might also want to
test the radeon driver from ati git head and see if that helps at all.

Alex

>
> Links for attached pictures (just in case):
> http://expandapps.org/pics/Crash1-1.JPG (Crash #1 - Pic 1 - most important
> one)
> http://expandapps.org/pics/Crash1-2.JPG (Crash #1 - Pic 2)
> http://expandapps.org/pics/Crash1-3.JPG (Crash #1 - Pic 3)
> http://expandapps.org/pics/Crash2.JPG (Crash #2)
> http://expandapps.org/pics/Crash3.JPG (Crash #3)
>
> On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 10:48:29 -0500, Jacob <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > LOL... I just said that in a previous e-mail before receiving this one.
> >
> > I'm going to restart my computer with my original Dapper 3D
> > configuration.
> > If everything goes super-smoothly, I'll try adding features that used to
> > crash this computer, such as Hardware Mouse pointer, RenderAccel, etc,
> > and
> > see how far I can get.
> >
> > On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 10:45:06 -0500, Alex Deucher <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On 11/1/06, Jacob <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> OK, I've backed up /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers, as it does contain
> >>> lots
> >>> of .so drivers, including radeon. I'm assuming ./configure
> >>> --prefix=/usr
> >>> will actually copy drivers to /usr, not /usr/lib/blabla.
> >>
> >> no.  prefix just sets the the prefix the drivers will end up in prefix
> >> + lib/xorg/modules/drivers.  prefix just sets the prefix, i.e., /usr
> >> vs /usr/local
> >>
> >> Alex
> >>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 10:08:49 -0500, Alex Deucher
> >>> <[email protected]>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > On 10/31/06, Jacob <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> >> I'm having issues. I've downloaded the source for
> >>> xserver-xorg-video-ati
> >>> >>  from Ubuntu repos, applied the patch, and ran:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> ./configure
> >>> >> make
> >>> >>
> >>> >> No .so files were created in any folders. Did I do something wrong?
> >>> >
> >>> > The final .so files don't get linked until you run make install.  By
> >>> > default the drivers default to /usr/local, so you have to change the
> >>> > prefix to intall in /usr
> >>> >
> >>> > first back up your old drivers (they should be in
> >>> > /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers or there abouts).
> >>> >
> >>> > ./configure --prefix=/usr
> >>> > make
> >>> > make install
> >>> >
> >>> > Alex
> >>> >
> >>> >>
> >>> >> On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 14:30:18 -0500, Alex Deucher
> >>> <[email protected]>
> >>> >> wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> > On 10/31/06, Jacob <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> >> >> Does this mean compiling? I mean, I'm OK with that, as long as it
> >>> >> >> doesn't
> >>> >> >> require tons of configuring, and, most importantly, it compiles
> >>> and
> >>> >> runs
> >>> >> >> correctly. :)
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> If I have to compile, I'm hoping there's a way to fully remove
> >>> it,
> >>> >> so I
> >>> >> >> can reinstall the standard version through Edgy repos.
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > You might want to check and see if Edgy already includes the fix
> >>> in
> >>> >> > question
> >>> >> >
> >>> >>
> >>> (http://gitweb.freedesktop.org/?p=xorg/driver/xf86-video-ati.git;a=blobdiff;h=6d6270187e048138463c6b913449083b2c8ad355;hp=03d1e8972b689150c59619762674f07b8ca356cf;hb=10ba4f0a435d7c1ed9f4a36a8d607f0f0b63be30;f=src/radeon_driver.c)
> >>> >> > If not then you can just grab the ati-1-0-branch from the ati git
> >>> tree
> >>> >> > and and build the new driver.  just back up your copies of
> >>> >> > radeon_drv.so, ati_drv.so, r128_drv.so and atimisc_drv.so and you
> >>> can
> >>> >> > revert them.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Alex
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >> On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 10:20:48 -0500, Alex Deucher
> >>> >> <[email protected]>
> >>> >> >> wrote:
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> > On 10/31/06, Jacob <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> >> >> >> Does anyone have any ideas? Please? I really want stable 3D.
> >>> >> *sniff*
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> > You might try the radeon ddx from ati git head or the ati
> >>> stable
> >>> >> >> > branch.  There was a patch for lockups on M6s related to
> >>> aperture
> >>> >> >> > stuff that went in a while back.  I would have assumed edgy
> >>> picked
> >>> >> it
> >>> >> >> > up, but...
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> > Alex
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 11:18:56 -0500, Jacob
> >>> <[email protected]>
> >>> >> >> >> wrote:
> >>> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> > My ATI Readon M6 LY has never been stable, and it isn't any
> >>> more
> >>> >> >> >> stable
> >>> >> >> >> > now with Edgy, either. Mostly crashes come with static
> >>> across
> >>> >> areas
> >>> >> >> >> that
> >>> >> >> >> > scroll, sometimes without freezing at all. Sometimes crashes
> >>> >> come
> >>> >> >> with
> >>> >> >> >> > stripes across the screen, mostly vertical, with the screen
> >>> >> fading
> >>> >> >> to
> >>> >> >> >> > something like negative, and then to white, sometimes
> >>> "snapping
> >>> >> >> out of
> >>> >> >> >> > it" with the screen going back to normal. Most of the time I
> >>> >> have
> >>> >> >> to
> >>> >> >> >> > reboot, however.
> >>> >> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> > I've pasted complete logs and configurations for that boot
> >>> >> below.
> >>> >> >> >> You'll
> >>> >> >> >> > notice in the xorg.conf, I commented options that I think
> >>> make
> >>> >> my
> >>> >> >> >> system
> >>> >> >> >> > more stable, but am not really sure. The crash that belongs
> >>> to
> >>> >> >> these
> >>> >> >> >> > logs are the one ith the screen fading to something like
> >>> >> negative,
> >>> >> >> and
> >>> >> >> >> > then to white. The computer had frozen, but I was able to go
> >>> >> >> through
> >>> >> >> >> the
> >>> >> >> >> > Alt+SysRq+S, Alt+SysRq+U, Alt+SysRq+B procedure to reboot
> >>> >> safely.
> >>> >> >> >> >
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> --
> >>> >> >> From,
> >>> >> >> Jacob
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >>
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> >>> >>
> >>>
> >>>
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