Re: ATI Radeon M6 LY in Edgy - does some crashing - how do I debug?

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On Thu, 02 Nov 2006 22:13:48 -0500, Alex Deucher <[email protected]>  
wrote:

> On 11/2/06, Jacob <[email protected]> wrote:
>> EDIT: My message bounced, so you should see the links at the bottom for
>> the attached images.
>>
>> OK, well, the fix fixed some of the crashes, but most appear after some
>> use. I suspect that there's still a memory bug, cause it only sometimes
>> crashes when something new happens, or two or more things happen  
>> together.
>> I need to know how to get some sort of error that I can use to debug  
>> this.
>>
>> I've provided snapshots of what the screens look like, in hopes that  
>> they
>> give you information. I've listed below the four different crashes that
>> can occur. I've labeled the attached screenshots as Crash1, Crash2,
>> Crash3, etc. (If the attachments didn't come through, see bottom of
>> message for links to uploaded versions.) Sorry about the fuzziness of  
>> some
>> of them. I turned off flash so the screens wouldn't be darkened.
>>
>>
>>    * Crash #1: Screen goes all TV-like. The computer screen is all  
>> screwey,
>> but the rest of the computer is still responsive. In other words, I can
>> still goto Ctrl+Alt+F1, and restart GDM. In this particular crash shown
>> (which looks slightly different then what it normally looks like) I  
>> could
>> go to Ctrl+Alt+F1, and everything would clear up (Crash1-2). Normally
>> things would still be all TV-scrolly like. I was able to go back to  
>> Gnome
>> (Crash1-3).
>>
>
> weird.  these don't look like crashes per se, more like problems with
> the PLLs or the display controller.

Really? Then why didn't I get this in Dapper? It didn't do this until  
right after I installed Edgy.

>
>>    * Crash #2: Screen fades into a whitish negative kind of look.  
>> Computer
>> kernel seems to still be operating, since I can execute the emergency
>> Alt+SysRq+S (sync disks), Alt+SysRq+U (unmount, remount), Alt+SysRq+B
>> (reboot) commands. This particular screenshot was taken during BZFlag. I
>> found that if I didn't let the map list fully load, the computer would
>> crash.
>
> This also looks display related.

Except that the computer locks up. I can't exit out, I can't Ctrl+Alt+F1,  
nothing. If it were display related, would it affect my computer?

>
>>
>>    * Crash #3: Screen just plain freezes. As I mentioned before, this  
>> crash
>> occured when I was loading something new, in this case, Firefox
>> Preferences.
>>
>
> this is more symptomatic of a crash.

Finally. *wink*

>
>>
>> Thanks for patiently reading through my messages and trying to help me
>> out! At this point the crashes are fairly far apart (about 1-2 hours) so
>> it is manageable, but I'd really like to get something good and stable,
>> where I only get crashes once or twice a week (like with Dapper).
>>
>
> I would say go ahead and open a bug for this
> (https://bugs.freedesktop.org) and let me know when you do so.
> explain the problem and inlcude that links to yor screenshots and what
> you've done so far.  If you are feeling brave you might also want to
> test the radeon driver from ati git head and see if that helps at all.

Oh, I'm brave enough alright. I just want to get this working.

Um... Just one thing... I have git installed, but I don't know where to go  
to download the latest drivers.

>
> Alex
>
>>
>> Links for attached pictures (just in case):
>> http://expandapps.org/pics/Crash1-1.JPG (Crash #1 - Pic 1 - most  
>> important
>> one)
>> http://expandapps.org/pics/Crash1-2.JPG (Crash #1 - Pic 2)
>> http://expandapps.org/pics/Crash1-3.JPG (Crash #1 - Pic 3)
>> http://expandapps.org/pics/Crash2.JPG (Crash #2)
>> http://expandapps.org/pics/Crash3.JPG (Crash #3)
>>
>> On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 10:48:29 -0500, Jacob <[email protected]>  
>> wrote:
>>
>> > LOL... I just said that in a previous e-mail before receiving this  
>> one.
>> >
>> > I'm going to restart my computer with my original Dapper 3D
>> > configuration.
>> > If everything goes super-smoothly, I'll try adding features that used  
>> to
>> > crash this computer, such as Hardware Mouse pointer, RenderAccel, etc,
>> > and
>> > see how far I can get.
>> >
>> > On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 10:45:06 -0500, Alex Deucher  
>> <[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 11/1/06, Jacob <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>> OK, I've backed up /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers, as it does contain
>> >>> lots
>> >>> of .so drivers, including radeon. I'm assuming ./configure
>> >>> --prefix=/usr
>> >>> will actually copy drivers to /usr, not /usr/lib/blabla.
>> >>
>> >> no.  prefix just sets the the prefix the drivers will end up in  
>> prefix
>> >> + lib/xorg/modules/drivers.  prefix just sets the prefix, i.e., /usr
>> >> vs /usr/local
>> >>
>> >> Alex
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 10:08:49 -0500, Alex Deucher
>> >>> <[email protected]>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> > On 10/31/06, Jacob <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>> >> I'm having issues. I've downloaded the source for
>> >>> xserver-xorg-video-ati
>> >>> >>  from Ubuntu repos, applied the patch, and ran:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> ./configure
>> >>> >> make
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> No .so files were created in any folders. Did I do something  
>> wrong?
>> >>> >
>> >>> > The final .so files don't get linked until you run make install.   
>> By
>> >>> > default the drivers default to /usr/local, so you have to change  
>> the
>> >>> > prefix to intall in /usr
>> >>> >
>> >>> > first back up your old drivers (they should be in
>> >>> > /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers or there abouts).
>> >>> >
>> >>> > ./configure --prefix=/usr
>> >>> > make
>> >>> > make install
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Alex
>> >>> >
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 14:30:18 -0500, Alex Deucher
>> >>> <[email protected]>
>> >>> >> wrote:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> > On 10/31/06, Jacob <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>> >> >> Does this mean compiling? I mean, I'm OK with that, as long  
>> as it
>> >>> >> >> doesn't
>> >>> >> >> require tons of configuring, and, most importantly, it  
>> compiles
>> >>> and
>> >>> >> runs
>> >>> >> >> correctly. :)
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> If I have to compile, I'm hoping there's a way to fully remove
>> >>> it,
>> >>> >> so I
>> >>> >> >> can reinstall the standard version through Edgy repos.
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > You might want to check and see if Edgy already includes the  
>> fix
>> >>> in
>> >>> >> > question
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >>
>> >>>  
>> (http://gitweb.freedesktop.org/?p=xorg/driver/xf86-video-ati.git;a=blobdiff;h=6d6270187e048138463c6b913449083b2c8ad355;hp=03d1e8972b689150c59619762674f07b8ca356cf;hb=10ba4f0a435d7c1ed9f4a36a8d607f0f0b63be30;f=src/radeon_driver.c)
>> >>> >> > If not then you can just grab the ati-1-0-branch from the ati  
>> git
>> >>> tree
>> >>> >> > and and build the new driver.  just back up your copies of
>> >>> >> > radeon_drv.so, ati_drv.so, r128_drv.so and atimisc_drv.so and  
>> you
>> >>> can
>> >>> >> > revert them.
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > Alex
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >> On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 10:20:48 -0500, Alex Deucher
>> >>> >> <[email protected]>
>> >>> >> >> wrote:
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> > On 10/31/06, Jacob <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>> >> >> >> Does anyone have any ideas? Please? I really want stable  
>> 3D.
>> >>> >> *sniff*
>> >>> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> > You might try the radeon ddx from ati git head or the ati
>> >>> stable
>> >>> >> >> > branch.  There was a patch for lockups on M6s related to
>> >>> aperture
>> >>> >> >> > stuff that went in a while back.  I would have assumed edgy
>> >>> picked
>> >>> >> it
>> >>> >> >> > up, but...
>> >>> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> > Alex
>> >>> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> >> On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 11:18:56 -0500, Jacob
>> >>> <[email protected]>
>> >>> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >>> >> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> >> > My ATI Readon M6 LY has never been stable, and it isn't  
>> any
>> >>> more
>> >>> >> >> >> stable
>> >>> >> >> >> > now with Edgy, either. Mostly crashes come with static
>> >>> across
>> >>> >> areas
>> >>> >> >> >> that
>> >>> >> >> >> > scroll, sometimes without freezing at all. Sometimes  
>> crashes
>> >>> >> come
>> >>> >> >> with
>> >>> >> >> >> > stripes across the screen, mostly vertical, with the  
>> screen
>> >>> >> fading
>> >>> >> >> to
>> >>> >> >> >> > something like negative, and then to white, sometimes
>> >>> "snapping
>> >>> >> >> out of
>> >>> >> >> >> > it" with the screen going back to normal. Most of the  
>> time I
>> >>> >> have
>> >>> >> >> to
>> >>> >> >> >> > reboot, however.
>> >>> >> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> >> > I've pasted complete logs and configurations for that  
>> boot
>> >>> >> below.
>> >>> >> >> >> You'll
>> >>> >> >> >> > notice in the xorg.conf, I commented options that I think
>> >>> make
>> >>> >> my
>> >>> >> >> >> system
>> >>> >> >> >> > more stable, but am not really sure. The crash that  
>> belongs
>> >>> to
>> >>> >> >> these
>> >>> >> >> >> > logs are the one ith the screen fading to something like
>> >>> >> negative,
>> >>> >> >> and
>> >>> >> >> >> > then to white. The computer had frozen, but I was able  
>> to go
>> >>> >> >> through
>> >>> >> >> >> the
>> >>> >> >> >> > Alt+SysRq+S, Alt+SysRq+U, Alt+SysRq+B procedure to reboot
>> >>> >> safely.
>> >>> >> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> --
>> >>> >> >> From,
>> >>> >> >> Jacob
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >>
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