Re: ATI Radeon M6 LY in Edgy - does some crashing - how do I debug?

"Alex Deucher" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.video.dri.user
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On 11/3/06, Jacob <[email protected]> wrote:
> Comments inserted.
>
> On Thu, 02 Nov 2006 22:13:48 -0500, Alex Deucher <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > On 11/2/06, Jacob <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> EDIT: My message bounced, so you should see the links at the bottom for
> >> the attached images.
> >>
> >> OK, well, the fix fixed some of the crashes, but most appear after some
> >> use. I suspect that there's still a memory bug, cause it only sometimes
> >> crashes when something new happens, or two or more things happen
> >> together.
> >> I need to know how to get some sort of error that I can use to debug
> >> this.
> >>
> >> I've provided snapshots of what the screens look like, in hopes that
> >> they
> >> give you information. I've listed below the four different crashes that
> >> can occur. I've labeled the attached screenshots as Crash1, Crash2,
> >> Crash3, etc. (If the attachments didn't come through, see bottom of
> >> message for links to uploaded versions.) Sorry about the fuzziness of
> >> some
> >> of them. I turned off flash so the screens wouldn't be darkened.
> >>
> >>
> >>    * Crash #1: Screen goes all TV-like. The computer screen is all
> >> screwey,
> >> but the rest of the computer is still responsive. In other words, I can
> >> still goto Ctrl+Alt+F1, and restart GDM. In this particular crash shown
> >> (which looks slightly different then what it normally looks like) I
> >> could
> >> go to Ctrl+Alt+F1, and everything would clear up (Crash1-2). Normally
> >> things would still be all TV-scrolly like. I was able to go back to
> >> Gnome
> >> (Crash1-3).
> >>
> >
> > weird.  these don't look like crashes per se, more like problems with
> > the PLLs or the display controller.
>
> Really? Then why didn't I get this in Dapper? It didn't do this until
> right after I installed Edgy.
>
> >
> >>    * Crash #2: Screen fades into a whitish negative kind of look.
> >> Computer
> >> kernel seems to still be operating, since I can execute the emergency
> >> Alt+SysRq+S (sync disks), Alt+SysRq+U (unmount, remount), Alt+SysRq+B
> >> (reboot) commands. This particular screenshot was taken during BZFlag. I
> >> found that if I didn't let the map list fully load, the computer would
> >> crash.
> >
> > This also looks display related.
>
> Except that the computer locks up. I can't exit out, I can't Ctrl+Alt+F1,
> nothing. If it were display related, would it affect my computer?
>
> >
> >>
> >>    * Crash #3: Screen just plain freezes. As I mentioned before, this
> >> crash
> >> occured when I was loading something new, in this case, Firefox
> >> Preferences.
> >>
> >
> > this is more symptomatic of a crash.
>
> Finally. *wink*
>
> >
> >>
> >> Thanks for patiently reading through my messages and trying to help me
> >> out! At this point the crashes are fairly far apart (about 1-2 hours) so
> >> it is manageable, but I'd really like to get something good and stable,
> >> where I only get crashes once or twice a week (like with Dapper).
> >>
> >
> > I would say go ahead and open a bug for this
> > (https://bugs.freedesktop.org) and let me know when you do so.
> > explain the problem and inlcude that links to yor screenshots and what
> > you've done so far.  If you are feeling brave you might also want to
> > test the radeon driver from ati git head and see if that helps at all.
>
> Oh, I'm brave enough alright. I just want to get this working.
>
> Um... Just one thing... I have git installed, but I don't know where to go
> to download the latest drivers.
>

Take a look at:
http://wiki.x.org/wiki/CompileXserverManually
http://wiki.freedesktop.org/wiki/UsingGit
http://wiki.x.org/wiki/ModularDevelopersGuide

Also, one more thing, try depth 16 if you have been using depth 24.
There have been some reports of problems with depth 24 on some M
chips.

Alex

> >
> > Alex
> >
> >>
> >> Links for attached pictures (just in case):
> >> http://expandapps.org/pics/Crash1-1.JPG (Crash #1 - Pic 1 - most
> >> important
> >> one)
> >> http://expandapps.org/pics/Crash1-2.JPG (Crash #1 - Pic 2)
> >> http://expandapps.org/pics/Crash1-3.JPG (Crash #1 - Pic 3)
> >> http://expandapps.org/pics/Crash2.JPG (Crash #2)
> >> http://expandapps.org/pics/Crash3.JPG (Crash #3)
> >>

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