Re: The future of Freevo(.org)

Jake <[email protected]> Tue, 21 Jan 2014 08:31:59 +1300
Newsgroups gmane.comp.video.freevo.user,gmane.comp.video.freevo.devel
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This is a sad day :( I used freevo for years but started using my TVs inb=
uilt dlna client when my last htpc died 3 years ago. It was a threadbare =
experience - but at least it didn't try to be too clever. I recently got =
a raspberry pi for xbmc, but I do miss freevo. It had the perfect mix of =
simplicity and features, my TVs dlna client is utterly braindead and xbmc=
 tries to be too clever.

Thanks for all your hard work Dirk!

Dirk Meyer <[email protected]> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I have no idea how many people still read this list, how many people
>still use Freevo 1.x, and how many people use 2.0 from git (I guess
>that
>is only me).
>
>I failed to get a release of Freevo 2 out. I changed too much, a
>complete rewrite and some parts are also written three or four times.
>My
>fault, I know -- an error made years ago and when noticed, it was too
>late to change it. And since I started a new job four years ago my time
>working on Freevo got smaller and smaller every month. Jason also is
>completely busy with his job.
>
>I still say Freevo 2 is ready to use, but I will not release it. I'm
>not
>sure it works with the latest clutter or gstreamer, I only know it
>works
>for me. It lacks many important features such as DVD playback (I have a
>BluRay Player) and TV recording. I do not need it and I don't have time
>to code it.
>
>Besides that, XBMC has a much bigger community, UPnP is enough for many
>people (even I use NAS + BubbleUPnP + TV sometimes) and new development
>such as Chromecast will reduce Freevo's usefulness even further.
>
>I will continue to use Freevo 2, I may even write an Android client for
>it (after learning Python with Freevo which was useful for getting my
>current job, hacking Android is a good next step), but I see no real
>future for Freevo without a live community and more people hacking
>code.
>If someone contributes something, I will add it. If someone needs help
>to get Freevo 2 running, I will provide it.
>
>Since we also lack someone maintaining the server we host and I do not
>want to pay for something we don't need, I will shut it down at the end
>of February. This means the SVN and the Wiki will be gone. If someone
>wants a backup of the Wiki please tell me. The code is already on
>github
>and will remain there. The mailing list on SF will continue and so will
>the mail server hosting freevo.org and all mail addresses will continue
>to be valid.
>
>Maybe after some time someone resurrects Freevo. I would love to pass
>the maintainership over to someone just as I took it over from Krister
>years ago. Maybe someone takes the kaa-stuff and writes something new
>and better. I'm happy to assist and I think the same is true for Jason.
>Maybe I will release something someday based on the current code.
>
>It was a great time, I learned a lot and it was much fun.
>
>
>Regards,
>
>Dischi
>
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<html><head></head><body>This is a sad day :( I used freevo for years but=
 started using my TVs inbuilt dlna client when my last htpc died 3 years =
ago. It was a threadbare experience - but at least it didn&#39;t try to b=
e too clever. I recently got a raspberry pi for xbmc, but I do miss freev=
o. It had the perfect mix of simplicity and features, my TVs dlna client =
is utterly braindead and xbmc tries to be too clever.<br>
<br>
Thanks for all your hard work Dirk!<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">Dir=
k Meyer &lt;[email protected]&gt; wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"=
 style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204,=
 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<pre class=3D"k9mail">Hi,<br /><br />I have no idea how many people still=
 read this list, how many people<br />still use Freevo 1.x, and how many =
people use 2.0 from git (I guess that<br />is only me).<br /><br />I fail=
ed to get a release of Freevo 2 out. I changed too much, a<br />complete =
rewrite and some parts are also written three or four times. My<br />faul=
t, I know -- an error made years ago and when noticed, it was too<br />la=
te to change it. And since I started a new job four years ago my time<br =
/>working on Freevo got smaller and smaller every month. Jason also is<br=
 />completely busy with his job.<br /><br />I still say Freevo 2 is ready=
 to use, but I will not release it. I'm not<br />sure it works with the l=
atest clutter or gstreamer, I only know it works<br />for me. It lacks ma=
ny important features such as DVD playback (I have a<br />BluRay Player) =
and TV recording. I do not need it and I don't have time<br />to code it.=
<br /><br />Besides that, XBMC has a much bigger
community, UPnP is enough for many<br />people (even I use NAS + BubbleUP=
nP + TV sometimes) and new development<br />such as Chromecast will reduc=
e Freevo's usefulness even further.<br /><br />I will continue to use Fre=
evo 2, I may even write an Android client for<br />it (after learning Pyt=
hon with Freevo which was useful for getting my<br />current job, hacking=
 Android is a good next step), but I see no real<br />future for Freevo w=
ithout a live community and more people hacking code.<br />If someone con=
tributes something, I will add it. If someone needs help<br />to get Free=
vo 2 running, I will provide it.<br /><br />Since we also lack someone ma=
intaining the server we host and I do not<br />want to pay for something =
we don't need, I will shut it down at the end<br />of February. This mean=
s the SVN and the Wiki will be gone. If someone<br />wants a backup of th=
e Wiki please tell me. The code is already on github<br />and will remain=
 there. The mailing list on SF will continue and
so will<br />the mail server hosting <a href=3D"http://freevo.org">freevo=
.org</a> and all mail addresses will continue<br />to be valid.<br /><br =
/>Maybe after some time someone resurrects Freevo. I would love to pass<b=
r />the maintainership over to someone just as I took it over from Kriste=
r<br />years ago. Maybe someone takes the kaa-stuff and writes something =
new<br />and better. I'm happy to assist and I think the same is true for=
 Jason.<br />Maybe I will release something someday based on the current =
code.<br /><br />It was a great time, I learned a lot and it was much fun=
.<br /><br /><br />Regards,<br /><br />Dischi<br /><br /><hr /><br />Cent=
uryLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services.<br />Learn Why Mo=
re Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For<br />Critical Workloads,=
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431&amp;iu=3D/4140/ostg.clktrk</a><br /><hr /><br />Freevo-users mailing =
list<br />[email protected]<br /><a href=3D"https://list=
s.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users">https://lists.sourceforge.=
net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users</a><br /></pre></blockquote></div><br>
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