Re: The future of Freevo(.org)
John Percival <[email protected]> Mon, 20 Jan 2014 21:49:19 +0100 (CET)
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--===============4955385159123403329== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_85555_17827951.1390250959615" ------=_Part_85555_17827951.1390250959615 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline A sad day indeed! Quite a few years ago I tried to get Freevo running on a Fujitsu HTPC but, no matter how I tried, I just couldn't get a signal out of the SCART socket - something quite basic one would have thought. Loads of people on the web with the same problem but no solution. So I shelved the project until, ironically, I got a Smart TV with a new-fangled HDMI connection and I'm now using REL-1_9_2b2. I did consider moving to version 2 but, quite frankly, I've invested too many years of my life in getting Freevo working at all and, more importantly, working the way I want it. Not only do I think it looks pretty cool (is it still cool to say 'cool'), but so does my wife and that's saying something. Sure I tried XBMC along the way but I don't like its look and feel. Although I do admit to ripping some code from it to create an ITV Player (I'm in the UK) for Freevo. Also, I created several other TV 'catch-up' players from scratch. I can also watch my security camera via Freevo and it's integrated with my Asterisk PBX. In fact, just this minute I've managed to get it to play my voice messages. As an old assembler programmer, I've taught myself some basic Python and thoroughly enjoyed, and will continue to enjoy, working with the Freevo infrastructure. I suppose I'd better take some backups. Very many thanks to all involved Freevo and best wishes for the future. Sob. Sob. John Percival. Jake <[email protected]> wrote:This is a sad day :( I used freevo for years but started using my TVs inbuilt dlna client when my last htpc died 3 years ago. It was a threadbare experience - but at least it didn't try to be too clever. I recently got a raspberry pi for xbmc, but I do miss freevo. It had the perfect mix of simplicity and features, my TVs dlna client is utterly braindead and xbmc tries to be too clever. Thanks for all your hard work Dirk! Dirk Meyer <[email protected]> wrote:Hi, I have no idea how many people still read this list, how many people still use Freevo 1.x, and how many people use 2.0 from git (I guess that is only me). I failed to get a release of Freevo 2 out. I changed too much, a complete rewrite and some parts are also written three or four times. My fault, I know -- an error made years ago and when noticed, it was too late to change it. And since I started a new job four years ago my time working on Freevo got smaller and smaller every month. Jason also is completely busy with his job. I still say Freevo 2 is ready to use, but I will not release it. I'm not sure it works with the latest clutter or gstreamer, I only know it works for me. It lacks many important features such as DVD playback (I have a BluRay Player) and TV recording. I do not need it and I don't have time to code it. Besides that, XBMC has a much biggercommunity, UPnP is enough for many people (even I use NAS + BubbleUPnP + TV sometimes) and new development such as Chromecast will reduce Freevo's usefulness even further. I will continue to use Freevo 2, I may even write an Android client for it (after learning Python with Freevo which was useful for getting my current job, hacking Android is a good next step), but I see no real future for Freevo without a live community and more people hacking code. If someone contributes something, I will add it. If someone needs help to get Freevo 2 running, I will provide it. Since we also lack someone maintaining the server we host and I do not want to pay for something we don't need, I will shut it down at the end of February. This means the SVN and the Wiki will be gone. If someone wants a backup of the Wiki please tell me. The code is already on github and will remain there. The mailing list on SF will continue andso will the mail server hosting freevo.org and all mail addresses will continue to be valid. Maybe after some time someone resurrects Freevo. I would love to pass the maintainership over to someone just as I took it over from Krister years ago. Maybe someone takes the kaa-stuff and writes something new and better. I'm happy to assist and I think the same is true for Jason. Maybe I will release something someday based on the current code. It was a great time, I learned a lot and it was much fun. Regards, Dischi CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For Critical Workloads, Development Environments & Everything In Between. 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Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk_______________________________________________ Freevo-users mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users -----------------------------------------------------Mail.be, WebMail and Virtual Officehttp://www.mail.be ------=_Part_85555_17827951.1390250959615 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline <div><DIV style=3D"font-family:arial; font-size:13px;">A sad day indeed!<BR= ><BR>Quite a few years ago I tried to get Freevo running on a Fujitsu HTPC = but, no matter how I tried, I just couldn't get a signal out of the SCA= RT socket - something quite basic one would have thought. Loads of people o= n the web with the same problem but no solution. So I shelved the project u= ntil, ironically, I got a Smart TV with a new-fangled HDMI connection and I= 'm now using REL-1_9_2b2.<BR><BR>I did consider moving to version 2 but= , quite frankly, I've invested too many years of my life in getting Fre= evo working at all and, more importantly, working the way I want it. Not on= ly do I think it looks pretty cool (is it still cool to say 'cool')= , but so does my wife and that's saying something.<BR><BR>Sure I tried = XBMC along the way but I don't like its look and feel. Although I do ad= mit to ripping some code from it to create an ITV Player (I'm in the UK= ) for Freevo. Also, I created several other TV 'catch-up' players f= rom scratch.<BR><BR>I can also watch my security camera via Freevo and it&#= 39;s integrated with my Asterisk PBX. In fact, just this minute I've ma= naged to get it to play my voice messages.<BR><BR>As an old assembler progr= ammer, I've taught myself some basic Python and thoroughly enjoyed, and= will continue to enjoy, working with the Freevo infrastructure.<BR><BR>I s= uppose I'd better take some backups.<BR><BR>Very many thanks to all inv= olved Freevo and best wishes for the future.<BR><BR>Sob. Sob.<BR><BR><BR>Jo= hn Percival.<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><DIV>Jake <[email protected]> wrote= :<BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite" cite=3D"<15252b86-7cc1-490d-a6b9-9b202e14f1cb@em= ail.android.com>">This is a sad day :( I used freevo for years but started = using my TVs inbuilt dlna client when my last htpc died 3 years ago. It was= a threadbare experience - but at least it didn't try to be too clever.= I recently got a raspberry pi for xbmc, but I do miss freevo. It had the p= erfect mix of simplicity and features, my TVs dlna client is utterly braind= ead and xbmc tries to be too clever.<BR> <BR> Thanks for all your hard work Dirk!<BR><BR><DIV class=3D"gmail_quote">Dirk = Meyer <[email protected]> wrote:<BLOCKQUOTE class=3D"gmail_quote" sty= le=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);= padding-left: 1ex;"> <PRE class=3D"k9mail">Hi,<BR><BR>I have no idea how many people still read = this list, how many people<BR>still use Freevo 1.x, and how many people use= 2.0 from git (I guess that<BR>is only me).<BR><BR>I failed to get a releas= e of Freevo 2 out. I changed too much, a<BR>complete rewrite and some parts= are also written three or four times. My<BR>fault, I know -- an error made= years ago and when noticed, it was too<BR>late to change it. And since I s= tarted a new job four years ago my time<BR>working on Freevo got smaller an= d smaller every month. Jason also is<BR>completely busy with his job.<BR><B= R>I still say Freevo 2 is ready to use, but I will not release it. I'm = not<BR>sure it works with the latest clutter or gstreamer, I only know it w= orks<BR>for me. It lacks many important features such as DVD playback (I ha= ve a<BR>BluRay Player) and TV recording. I do not need it and I don't h= ave time<BR>to code it.<BR><BR>Besides that, XBMC has a much bigger community, UPnP is enough for many<BR>people (even I use NAS + BubbleUPnP += TV sometimes) and new development<BR>such as Chromecast will reduce Freevo= 's usefulness even further.<BR><BR>I will continue to use Freevo 2, I m= ay even write an Android client for<BR>it (after learning Python with Freev= o which was useful for getting my<BR>current job, hacking Android is a good= next step), but I see no real<BR>future for Freevo without a live communit= y and more people hacking code.<BR>If someone contributes something, I will= add it. If someone needs help<BR>to get Freevo 2 running, I will provide i= t.<BR><BR>Since we also lack someone maintaining the server we host and I d= o not<BR>want to pay for something we don't need, I will shut it down a= t the end<BR>of February. This means the SVN and the Wiki will be gone. If = someone<BR>wants a backup of the Wiki please tell me. The code is already o= n github<BR>and will remain there. The mailing list on SF will continue and so will<BR>the mail server hosting <A href=3D"http://freevo.org">freevo.org= </A> and all mail addresses will continue<BR>to be valid.<BR><BR>Maybe afte= r some time someone resurrects Freevo. I would love to pass<BR>the maintain= ership over to someone just as I took it over from Krister<BR>years ago. Ma= ybe someone takes the kaa-stuff and writes something new<BR>and better. I&#= 39;m happy to assist and I think the same is true for Jason.<BR>Maybe I wil= l release something someday based on the current code.<BR><BR>It was a grea= t time, I learned a lot and it was much fun.<BR><BR><BR>Regards,<BR><BR>Dis= chi<BR><BR><HR><BR>CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Servic= es.<BR>Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For<BR>Crit= ical Workloads, Development Environments & Everything In Between.<BR>Ge= t a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. <BR><A href=3D"http://pubads.g.doubl= eclick.net/gampad/clk?id=3D119420431&iu=3D/4140/ostg.clktrk">http://pubads.= g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=3D119420431&iu=3D/4140/ostg.clktrk</A><= BR><HR><BR>Freevo-users mailing list<BR>[email protected]<= BR><A href=3D"https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users">ht= tps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users</A><BR></PRE></BLOC= KQUOTE></DIV><BR> --<BR> Jake<PRE style=3D"font-size:13px;">----------------------------------------= --------------------------------------<BR>CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in = Enterprise Cloud Services.<BR>Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing Centur= yLink Cloud For<BR>Critical Workloads, Development Environments & Every= thing In Between.<BR>Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. <BR><A href= =3D"http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=3D119420431&iu=3D/4140/os= tg.clktrk" target=3D"_blank">http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id= =3D119420431&iu=3D/4140/ostg.clktrk</A></PRE><PRE style=3D"font-size:13= px;">_______________________________________________<BR>Freevo-users mailin= g list<BR><A href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">Freevo-user= [email protected]</A><BR><A href=3D"https://lists.sourceforge.net/lis= ts/listinfo/freevo-users" target=3D"_blank">https://lists.sourceforge.net/l= ists/listinfo/freevo-users</A><BR></PRE></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></DIV></div><HR> ----------------------------------------------------- Mail.be, WebMail and Virtual Office http://www.mail.be ------=_Part_85555_17827951.1390250959615-- --===============4955385159123403329== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. 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