Re: [MPEGIF Discuss] [systems] [discussion] Who framed MPEG-4 withinH264 ?
"LIM, Young-Kwon" <young-zal/3I/[email protected]> Thu, 30 Sep 2004 01:31:26 +0900
| Newsgroups | gmane.comp.video.mpeg4.general |
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| Organization | net&tv Inc. |
| Message-ID | <016c01c4a641$c59974b0$aa00a8c0@young> |
Dear Igino Manfre I just want to inform you that there is a service planning to use MPEG-4 Systems for broadcasting interactive contents. Korea is introducing new broadcasting service for mobile reception early next year which is adopting MPEG-4 BIFS for the interactive contents. It will be the world first commercial broadcasting service based on MPEG-4 Systems. Sincerely, Young-Kwon LIM VP Business Development net&tv Inc. ----- Original Message ----- From: "igino manfre'" <[email protected]> To: <mp4-tech-wvgAS0I8NaWTm/[email protected]>; <discuss-wvgAS0I8NaWTm/[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 2:26 AM Subject: [MPEGIF Discuss] [systems] [discussion] Who framed MPEG-4 withinH264 ? > Hi people, > > It seems me that we are forgetting that MPEG-4 is NOT ONLY a visual > compression scheme. > Really it is all but BUT NOT ONLY a visual compression scheme. > > I presume you all agree. > > If we consider the subjects of this newsgroup, in the last two-three years > the focus migrates from the visual (who was in or out MPEG-4) to the MPEG-LA > licensing schemes (that could better defined "mpeg-4 suicide") and again > back to the visual (h264). It can be also felt a growing interest from India > and far east. > > In this landscape, I find almost no mail related to the "system" of MPEG-4, > and I do not think because they are better explained. > > Two years ago there had been a lot of development of SDKs and authoring > systems in the area, many of which used to work (even fine). Probably all > these have been commercial flops since now at the exhibitions no-one is more > pushing fully MPEG-4 based solutions. All and only H264. Does it means that > MPEG-4 (in its complex) is dead ? > > Really, for what I know, excluding the many experiments and demo targeted to > demostrate the power of object encoding and multiplexing within MPEG-4 > systems (meanly two-three years old), I do not know any "true" (i.e. > marketable) application of "true" MPEG-4 after the part "-2". > > Today the entire world is fashioned by H264. Its astonishing 2-3 Mbps 720P > video will probably be the first "true" MPEG-4 part really diffused on the > Earth. All the broadcast encoder manufacturer are today able to show their > h264 solution... > > But the broadcast usage will probably be a terrible mix of H264 ES video & > MP3 or AC3 audio over MPEG-2 transport. The goal is to "squeeze" enough the > required bandwidth to allow the deploiment of high definition TV over cable > modem. To make this mix dirtier, probably these broadcast will carry OCAP or > MHP/OpenTV interactivity. > > Does not it sound a little blasfeme ? What do you think about ? > > The diffusion of MPEG-2 STB is not a key factor, since the current STBs must > be replaced in any case to decompress the H264. But a STB that will be able > to decode H264 could have enough computational power to implement the entire > standard. > > Really it is an architectural problem since if the entire decoder will be > put in a dice of silicon any further expansion could not be possible... > > An observation I expect is that as "the market trains the research", as well > it trains the newsgroups. But maybe the locomotives (or who designs the > railways) do not sufficiently know what COULD be available... > > Are we really sure to have done the right work ? > > Best regards, Igino Manfre' > > ----------------------- > > Igino Manfre' - [email protected] > Broadcast Video Consultant > Mobile (+39) 3358235346 > Home (+39) 0650916416 > 13, Largo Nearco > I 00124 ROMA - ITALY > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss-wvgAS0I8NaWTm/[email protected] > http://lists.mpegif.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > Note: Conduct on the mailing list is subject to the Antitrust guidelines found at http://www.mpegif.org/public/documents/vault/mp-out-30042-Antitrust.php > _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list Discuss-wvgAS0I8NaWTm/[email protected] http://lists.mpegif.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss Note: Conduct on the mailing list is subject to the Antitrust guidelines found at http://www.mpegif.org/public/documents/vault/mp-out-30042-Antitrust.php