Re: Ann: 6.0.3 Release

At 07:47 a +0000 10/11/2007, Paul Wade didst inscribe upon an 
electronic papyrus:

>Meanwhile I'm having dreadful trouble with my relationships at the moment. 
>Can you help me with those too?
>
>:0))

hahaha, at least you have relationships. ;)


At 09:11 p +0000 10/09/2007, Paul Wade didst inscribe upon an 
electronic papyrus:

>Nobody much uses 64-bit browsers at the moment, so long as Adobe and Flash
>stay resolutely 32-bit!

At 02:46 p -0400 10/11/2007, Aengus didst inscribe upon an electronic papyrus:

>But as you yourself confirmed, the x64 version of IE is "currently unusable",

At 07:45 p +0000 10/11/2007, Paul Wade didst inscribe upon an 
electronic papyrus:

>All 64-bit browsers for Windows are currently unusable, because web designers
>have been encouraged for years to adopt Flash everywhere

Flash is unusable in Lynx, but Lynx is extremely usable without it. :D

And are you saying the iPhone is unusable because there's no Flash support?
I think a million happy iPhone users would disagree. Especially since 
most Flash usage is currently rich media ads, and I'm content to not 
see 'em.

Actually, the encouragement was supposed to be to use Flash's vector 
art instead of bitmap art due to smaller file size for vector; I 
don't think anyone was ever "encouraged" to create a "Flash site" -- 
I don't know who first thought of that, but that person should be 
shot and the resultant plague needs to be eradicated.
I'm hopeful the iPhone will help.

(And very on topic: navigating within a Flash app won't provide any 
useful logs for Analog to analyze, which is yet another reason why 
Flash sites are lame.)

>and as a 32-bit
>application, the player won¹t install or work on a 64-bit browser.
>
>http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=6b3af6c9

Hmm... is that why there's no Flash player for the iPhone? 64-bit ARM1176?
http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/01/iphone-processor-found-620mhz-arm/
http://www.arm.com/products/CPUs/families/ARM11Family.html
http://www.arm.com/products/CPUs/ARM1176.html


At 04:02 p -0500 10/11/2007, Dimitri Maziuk didst inscribe upon an 
electronic papyrus:

>people figured that all you get from using 64-bit applications on a
>64-bit machine is waste of RAM and hard drive space: double the size of the
>binary, no speed advantage.
>
>There are many cases where 64 bits are useful, but I don't see how web
>browsers fit into this category just now. Maybe when Internet3 goes online
>and all the webpages grow over 2GB in size...

Perhaps some Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard developer here (anyone here 
seeded?) could chime in on whether Dimitri's presumptions about 
doubled RAM or disk usage apply or not?


-Walter

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