Re: ui colors again

Jorge wrote:
>   The  default  theme  in  dillo  is kind of a consensus over the
> years.  This  is,  when changes were proposed, the most voted one
> (or less objected) got to be the default (same for the website).

I think we have a strong tendency to defer to you in general and end up
with what Jorge likes, even if that's not your intention particularly.

And of course the community is so tiny these days that we often get one vote
or zero votes on something, dispiritingly enough.

Last year, the opinions presented on the list on ripping out the hardcoded
colors were: Benjamin brought it up, iirc, having done so with his fork. I
liked the idea. Johannes liked the idea.

>     * The default colors should not be changed without consensus.

It should be quite similar except that there's some white where we
customarily have a greenish color. I'm not too crazy about the white, but
I didn't want to make it the same greenish merely because it's what we had
because then we'd all not notice it and/or accept it as the way it's always
been. (The white of course being fltk's default.)

I'm thinking that we come up with defaults for foreground and the two
backgrounds and maybe selection color, and then put in contrast() and
lighter() and darker() as necessary for visibility and pleasant appearance,
but base everything on that set of colors instead of hardcoding anything
to green or blue or whatever.

>     * The patch should provide a way to keep the previous default
>       (i.e. How do I get my colors/pixmaps back?)
> 
>   PS: WRT the second point, I find the inactive pixmaps too
>       "live" for my taste (and thus prefer the pixmaps).

I initially wanted to make the inactive pixmaps look better with greyish or
darkish backgrounds, and I used Fl_Image's inactive(), which just dims the
pixmap down with some background color. But they didn't look inactive enough,
so I went the desaturate() route after all, which is rather like using the
pixmaps... So I haven't come up with anything that I'm happy enough with to
really want to _advocate_ for.

>   PS2: Is good to have the  input/dialog backgrounds configurable
>        but the defaults should be voted.