Re: Envolution proposal idea

Scott Kindley <ckindley-/Nmu/[email protected]> 15 Sep 2002 12:08:09 -0500
Newsgroups gmane.comp.web.envolution.devel
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On Sun, 2002-09-15 at 11:37, James Pegram wrote:
> 
> Well i was more going for the breeding ground of ideas approach. Until more people start using this like I do and like your talking about the viewpoint is remain one of a news portal site.
> 

Yes I agree with you 100%. But I also advocate using the right tools for
the right job. Being a CMS means being a portal site or an information
publishing site. But you can utilize the features of a CMS to do more
than simply "publishing" and "portalizing" without the need to re-code
and re-tool to become an Application Server. 

Because unless the Application Server actually performs the functions is
directs you to it isn't really anything more than a gateway to the right
app anyway...so it is in some respects a "portal" also. But other
projects that wish to go this route have talked about implementing code
and tools that take the levels of abstraction to such a level of
complexity that it only appeals to a niche group in their own user base.

I would rather see the foundation there to allow those niche players to
do what they want without sacrificing the very principles of a CMS. I
think you agree from what I read in your reply.

But to reaffirm...you are very perceptive on the breeding ground for
ideas approach. We just need to be careful that we don't try to be all
things for all people because that is something no project can
accomplish IMHO.


> Personally, I'd like to see a package that is simply a gutted core site. Nothing fancy.. that pretty much only displays an adminsitration section on install..

Yes. As do I. Taking it one step further if the core is truly
modularized this would be what you would have in the first place. This
is something I think we all desire to achieve with Envolution.

> 
> Then I could go choose the packages I want and install them. Right now the whoel system is bogged down by modules/themes/blocks that aren't necessarily used. 

Agreed!

> 
> A package of commonly used ones would be good for those who want it, but a stripped version would be ideal as well.
> 

Agreed!

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