Re: [EP-underground] Kudos to Tim Brody for his cross-archive registry and growth-metre!

Jessie Hey <[email protected]> Fri, 06 Feb 2004 11:53:00 +0000
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This is excellent news for understanding the bigger picture.

In comparing content, there will, however, be a need to distinguish between 
simple bibliographic records and records with full text attached where an 
archive is also serving as a publications listing. In addition, 
some  bibliographic records may also link to open access text although they 
are not deposited in an archive.

Jessie


At 20:18 05/02/2004 +0000, you wrote:
>On Thu, 5 Feb 2004 Eric Van de Velde <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I absolutely love
> > http://archives.eprints.org/eprints.php!
> > I think this shows what really matters: content!
> > I would suggest a few additions to make the website
> > complete and then use it for some good PR:
> >
> >       - A federated search interface
>
>Dear Eric,
>
>All credit goes to Tim Brody (to whom I am branching your reply)!
>
>I'm not sure what a federated interface is. (I assume it's one that 
>accepts all
>pertinent OAI archives, and in some integrated way? Tim will understand, 
>and, I
>hope, do it if he can.)
>
> >       - Content statistics (graph number of items over time)
>
>There is already an analysis across archives:
>http://archives.eprints.org/eprints.php?action=analysis
>
>but I agree that eprints itself should have a way of doing the same
>*within* each archive across time: (Chris? Tim?)
>
> >       - Usage statistics (I guess the individual repositories would have
> > to contribute that)
>
>In principle, an OAIster cross-archive version of Tim's existing citebase,
>which counts downloads as well as citations could provide that. Again,
>it would hep if the eprints software were adapted to make this easily done
>(Chris? Tim?)
>http://citebase.eprints.org/
>http://citebase.eprints.org/analysis/correlation.php
>
> > Ideally, all of this would be made available for:
> >               1. All OAI repositories
> >               2. All Eprints repositories
> >               3. Each collection of Eprints repositories belonging to a
> > separate institution.
>
>Yes, yes, and yes!
>
> > In fact, such a website could be the launch of an Eprints coalition of
> > institutes.
>
>And yes again!
>
>Best wishes, Stevan
>
> > With kind greetings,
> > --Eric.
>
>Eric Van de Velde
>Library Director
>California Institute of Technology

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Jessie Hey
Research Fellow TARDIS  http://tardis.eprints.org/
Dr. JMN Hey    ([email protected])
Tel: +44 (0)23 8059 6112  Fax +44 (0)23 8059 6115
e-Prints Soton: University of Southampton e-Prints Service 
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This is excellent news for understanding the bigger picture.<br><br>
In comparing content, there will, however, be a need to distinguish
between simple bibliographic records and records with full text attached
where an archive is also serving as a publications listing. In addition,
some&nbsp; bibliographic records may also link to open access text
although they are not deposited in an archive.<br><br>
Jessie <br><br>
<br>
At 20:18 05/02/2004 +0000, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>On Thu, 5 Feb 2004 Eric Van de
Velde &lt;[email protected]&gt; wrote:<br><br>
&gt; I absolutely love<br>
&gt;
<a href="http://archives.eprints.org/eprints.php" eudora="autourl">http://archives.eprints.org/eprints.php</a>!
<br>
&gt; I think this shows what really matters: content! <br>
&gt; I would suggest a few additions to make the website<br>
&gt; complete and then use it for some good PR:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; <x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab>- A federated
search interface<br><br>
Dear Eric,<br><br>
All credit goes to Tim Brody (to whom I am branching your
reply)!<br><br>
I'm not sure what a federated interface is. (I assume it's one that
accepts all<br>
pertinent OAI archives, and in some integrated way? Tim will understand,
and, I<br>
hope, do it if he can.)<br><br>
&gt; <x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab>- Content
statistics (graph number of items over time)<br><br>
There is already an analysis across archives:<br>
<a href="http://archives.eprints.org/eprints.php?action=analysis" eudora="autourl">http://archives.eprints.org/eprints.php?action=analysis</a><br><br>
but I agree that eprints itself should have a way of doing the same<br>
*within* each archive across time: (Chris? Tim?)<br><br>
&gt; <x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab>- Usage
statistics (I guess the individual repositories would have<br>
&gt; to contribute that)<br><br>
In principle, an OAIster cross-archive version of Tim's existing
citebase,<br>
which counts downloads as well as citations could provide that.
Again,<br>
it would hep if the eprints software were adapted to make this easily
done<br>
(Chris? Tim?)<br>
<a href="http://citebase.eprints.org/" eudora="autourl">http://citebase.eprints.org/</a><br>
<a href="http://citebase.eprints.org/analysis/correlation.php" eudora="autourl">http://citebase.eprints.org/analysis/correlation.php</a><br><br>
&gt; Ideally, all of this would be made available for:<br>
&gt;
<x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab><x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab>1.
All OAI repositories<br>
&gt;
<x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab><x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab>2.
All Eprints repositories<br>
&gt;
<x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab><x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab>3.
Each collection of Eprints repositories belonging to a<br>
&gt; separate institution.<br><br>
Yes, yes, and yes!<br><br>
&gt; In fact, such a website could be the launch of an Eprints coalition
of<br>
&gt; institutes.<br><br>
And yes again!<br><br>
Best wishes, Stevan<br><br>
&gt; With kind greetings,<br>
&gt; --Eric.<br><br>
Eric Van de Velde<br>
Library Director<br>
California Institute of Technology</blockquote>
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~~~~~~~~<br>
Jessie Hey&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br>
Research Fellow TARDIS&nbsp;
<a href="http://tardis.eprints.org/" eudora="autourl"><font color="#0000FF"><u>http://tardis.eprints.org/</a><br>
</u></font>Dr. JMN Hey&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ([email protected])<br>
Tel: +44 (0)23 8059 6112&nbsp; Fax +44 (0)23 8059 6115<br>
e-Prints Soton: University of Southampton e-Prints Service
<a href="http://eprints.soton.ac.uk/" eudora="autourl">http://eprints.soton.ac.uk/</a>
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