[EP-underground] Peer Review, Peer Commentary, and Eprint Archive Policy
Stevan Harnad <[email protected]> Sat, 9 Mar 2002 12:18:45 +0000 (GMT)
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On Sat, 9 Mar 2002, [identity removed] wrote:
> We at the University of [identity removed] are in the very early stages
> of creating an eprint repository (we will be registering as soon as our new
> server arrives). The Dean of the faculty with which we expect to work as a
> starting point expressed dismay when I mentioned that commentary on papers
> was public, not sent privately to the author. Is it possible to set things
> up so that the comments could be kept private if the author so wished? Is
> this something the site administrator could do? I am assuming that comments
> can go into a buffer just like papers can? I have searched the FAQs and can
> find nothing that answers this question so hope you can answer it for me
> please
The first answer is that of course commentary (or anything) can be kept
private. All deposits to an Eprint Archive first go into the buffer,
and whoever is managing that buffer can either exclude "commentary" or
first send it to the author on whose paper it is based, according to
policy, which is up to the institution.
Second, the whole Archive can be made nonpublic, should one so wish.
(That is not the purpose of open access, but the software is flexible
enough so it can be used that way if an institution wishes.)
But third: What is commentary? Eprint Archives are intended for
faculty research output, both unrefereed preprints and refereed
postprints. In both these categories there will be papers that cite the
papers of others, and are hence "commentary". (Does the Dean of the
faculty think that what authors write, or is written about them, needs
to be monitored by the university?)
As it happens, I am the editor (for nearly a quarter century) of a
peer-reviewed paper journal devoted exclusively to articles with "open
peer commentary" (Behavioral and Brain Sciences, published by Cambridge
University Press: http://www.bbsonline.org) as well as the editor (for
over a decade) of a peer-reviewed online journal likewise devoted to
articles plus commentary (Psycoloquy:
http://www.cogsci.soton.ac.uk/cgi/psyc/newpsy ).
Peer commentary (not to be confused with formal peer review, for which
it is a supplement, but not a substitute) is open review. It is as old as
scholarship itself. It is not something that needs to be treated as a
special case and suppressed! Moreover, it is something that is actively
sought by authors, as a form of impact and recognition. A university
need not protect its authors from it!
Perhaps your Dean is confusing peer review and open peer commentary:
Eprints can also be used as (part of) a peer-review system for a
journal, in which case referee reports submitted to the buffer are not
made public, but only available to the editor, referees and authors.
Or perhaps your Dean is thinking of informal or even improper comments,
not intended for or worthy of being made public. That is of course a
matter for the judgment of the Eprint Archive's manager, the one in
charge of the buffer. An Archive can exercise as much selectivity, and
make its archiving policy as constrained or as unconstrained as it
chooses.
But it should be remembered that a University Eprint Archive is not (in
general) meant to be a refereed journal. It is meant to publicly archive
(i.e., render openly accessible) the research output of its faculty,
which includes pre-refereeing preprints and post-refereeing postprints.
Within the category of pre-refereeing preprints (or, in the case of
items that have been accepted by journals like Behavioral and Brain
Sciences or Psycoloquy, within the category of published postprints)
there will be items such as commentaries or review papers.
Most Eprint Archives will want to do light filtering to exclude
obviously inappropriate material such as pornography, spam, quackery,
perhaps also deposits by anyone not affiliated with the university, or
material otherwise deemed unsuitable. But it is not at all clear that
they will want to regard formal commentary as such. On the contrary, it
is much more likely that the open-access era will spawn a much larger
and richer body of peer interaction and feedback in the form of both
published and unpublished peer commentary than was ever possible in the
printed medium, to the considerable benefit of research progress
itself.
"Comments in Journals"
http://www.cogsci.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Hypermail/Amsci/0884.html
"Open source tool for online peer review commentary"
http://www.cogsci.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Hypermail/Amsci/1606.html
"Peer Commentary Software"
http://www.cogsci.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Hypermail/Amsci/1859.html
Harnad, S. (1979) Creative disagreement. The Sciences 19: 18 - 20.
Harnad, S. (1984) Commentaries, opinions and the growth of scientific
knowledge. American Psychologist 39: 1497 - 1498.
Harnad, S. (1996) Implementing Peer Review on the Net: Scientific
Quality Control in Scholarly Electronic Journals. In: Peek,
R. & Newby, G. (Eds.) Scholarly Publication: The Electronic Frontier.
Cambridge MA: MIT Press. Pp. 103-108.
http://cogprints.soton.ac.uk/documents/disk0/00/00/16/92/cog00001692-00/harnad96.peer.review.html
Harnad, S. (1997) Learned Inquiry and the Net: The Role of Peer Review,
Peer Commentary and Copyright. Learned Publishing
11(4) 283-292. Short version appeared in 1997 in Antiquity 71:
1042-1048. Excerpts also appeared in the University of Toronto
Bulletin: 51(6) P. 12.
http://cogprints.soton.ac.uk/documents/disk0/00/00/16/94/cog00001694-00/harnad98.toronto.learnedpub.html
Harnad, S. (1998) The invisible hand of peer review. Nature [online] (c.
5 Nov. 1998)
http://helix.nature.com/webmatters/invisible/invisible.html
http://cogprints.soton.ac.uk/documents/disk0/00/00/16/46/cog00001646-00/nature2.html
Stevan Harnad
NOTE: A complete archive of the ongoing discussion of providing free
access to the refereed journal literature online is available at the
American Scientist September Forum (98 & 99 & 00 & 01):
http://amsci-forum.amsci.org/archives/september98-forum.html
or
http://www.cogsci.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Hypermail/Amsci/index.html
Discussion can be posted to:
[email protected]
See also the Budapest Open Access Initiative:
http://www.soros.org/openaccess
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Subject: [EP-underground] eprints & Mac OS X?
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Has anyone tried to get eprints 2 to work with Mac OS X?
I have Apache & MySQL running on OS X so it seems eprints should also work.
Any thoughts or recommendations?
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Hi Kat,
I just wanted to touch base with you to see how things are going. Have you
been getting any folks with collections? Has Mike figured out our little
harvester yet? How is the survey getting along? Gotten any responses yet
from the DLF letter that went out?
YuPing has been working on more extensive documentation for the Java
harvester and I hope he'll have that done within the next couple of days.
One thing I'm think about is that since version 2.0 of the OAI Protocol is
soon to be released, it might be difficult to convince potential metadata
providers to do anything before it comes out. We hope to re-vamp our OAI
Provider tools to adjust for version 2.0 within the next month - but of
course these tools are developed for Windows environment and therefore may
not be suitable for many folks. I suspect Jeff Young, from OCLC, will be
upgrading his provider tool that is for a Unix environment.
Hope you're doing well.
Joanne
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Dear Member:
I have just successfully installed Eprints 2.0. I was exploring the feature
of subject editing tool to add a new subject area. When I try to add a new
subject area, say for example, 'Computer Science' it does get added but it
gets added within parenthesis. How do I get over this problem?
thanks ver much in advance,
- Francis
NCSI, IISc.
Bangalore
India
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This took me a while to figure out!!!
When you add a subject eg. "fish" You add it and see
(fish)
as the title. The parenthesis () indicate that it has not got a proper title
so it's just rendering the ID. The next thing you should do is add the title
for that subject, and select if people can use it as a subject (some subjects
are just "bags" to put other subjects in).
If you are running in more than one language you should enter a title for
each supported language.
On Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 05:15:12PM +0530, Francis Jayakanth wrote:
> Dear Member:
>
> I have just successfully installed Eprints 2.0. I was exploring the feature
> of subject editing tool to add a new subject area. When I try to add a new
> subject area, say for example, 'Computer Science' it does get added but it
> gets added within parenthesis. How do I get over this problem?
>
>
> thanks ver much in advance,
>
> - Francis
>
> NCSI, IISc.
> Bangalore
> India
>
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Subject: [EP-underground] Committee on Institutional Cooperation (CIC) and the Budapest Open Access Initiative
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On Thu, 11 Apr 2002, Rick Johnson wrote:
> As the message below reports, the CIC (the Committee on Institutional
> Cooperation, which is the academic consortium of the Big Ten
> universities and the University of Chicago) has asked if there are
> specific ways in which they can aid BOAI. If you have ideas you'd
> like to add to my initial comments (also below), let me know.
>
> Rick Johnson, Enterprise Director
> SPARC * The Scholarly Publishing & Academic Resources Coalition
> 21 Dupont Circle NW, Suite 800, Washington, DC 20036
> Tel + 202 296 2296 x157 / Fax + 202 872 0884
> E-mail [email protected]
> SPARC http://www.arl.org/sparc
> http://www.sparceurope.org / http://www.createchange.org
Rick:
Here are some very specific, direct, concrete, and simple
institutional-infrastructural recommendations to add to yours. If they
are implemented by the Big Ten, other universities will follow suit.
Open Access can only come from the Golden Rule: All have to do it, in
order for all to have it.
An excellent model to follow is the one already adopted at CalTech:
http://www.arl.org/sparc/core/index.asp?page=g20#6
Here are the 6 steps to implement as University policy:
http://www.eprints.org/self-faq/#institution-facilitate-filling
How can an institution facilitate the filling of its Eprint Archives?
(1) Install OAI-compliant Eprint Archives.
http://www.eprints.org/
(2) Adopt a university-wide policy that all faculty
maintain and update a standardised online curriculum
vitae (CV) for annual revue.
http://www-db.library.nottingham.ac.uk/ep1/information.html
(3) Mandate that the full digital text of all refereed
publications should be deposited in the University
Eprint Archives and linked to their entry in the
author's online CV. (Make it clear to all faculty how
self-archiving is in the interest of their own
research and standing, maximizing the visibility,
accessibility and impact of their work.)
http://www.nature.com/nature/debates/e-access/Articles/lawrence.html
(4) Offer trained digital librarian help in showing
faculty how to self-archive their papers in the
university Eprint Archive (it is very easy).
http://caltechlib.library.caltech.edu/help/
(5) Offer trained digital librarian help in doing
"proxy" self-archiving, on behalf of any authors who
feel that they are personally unable (too busy or
technically incapable) to self-archive for themselves.
They need only supply their digital full-texts in
word-processor form: the digital archiving assistants
can do the rest (usually only a few dozen keystrokes
per paper).
http://caltechlib.library.caltech.edu/information.html
(A policy of mandated self-archiving for all refereed
research, together with a trained proxy self-archiving
service, to ensure that lack of time or skill do not
become grounds for non-compliance, are the most
important ingredients in a successful self-archiving
program. The proxy self-archiving will only be needed
to set the first wave of self-archiving reliably in
motion. The rewards of self-archiving -- in terms of
visibility, accessibility and impact -- will maintain
the momentum once the archive has reached critical
mass. And even students can do for faculty the few
keystrokes needed for each new paper thereafter.)
http://www.cogsci.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Tp/thes1.html
(6) Digital librarians, collaborating with web system
staff, should be involved in ensuring the proper
maintenance, backup, mirroring, upgrading, and
migration that ensures the perpetual preservation of
the university Eprint Archives. Mirroring and
migration should be handled in collaboration with
counterparts at all other institutions supporting
OAI-compliant Eprint Archives.
Stevan Harnad
NOTE: A complete archive of the ongoing discussion of providing free
access to the refereed journal literature online is available at the
American Scientist September Forum (98 & 99 & 00 & 01):
http://amsci-forum.amsci.org/archives/september98-forum.html
or
http://www.cogsci.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Hypermail/Amsci/index.html
Discussion can be posted to:
[email protected]
See also the Budapest Open Access Initiative:
http://www.soros.org/openaccess
and the Free Online Scholarship Movement:
http://www.earlham.edu/~peters/fos/timeline.htm
> >Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 11:57:58 -0400
> >To: Paula Kaufman <[email protected]>
> >From: Rick Johnson <[email protected]>
> >Subject: Re: CIC/Conley
> >
> >Paula,
> >
> >Great news concerning CIC! Also glad to see that you and UIUC have
> >signed the Budapest text.
> >
> >Building infrastructure for institutional repositories and journals
> >is exactly what I would have suggested as the key CIC strategic
> >input. I also think it would be very useful to establish a pool of
> >funds that authors at CIC institutions can draw on to pay publishing
> >fees to open access journals.
> >
> >I will give CIC's offer some further thought and will consult with
> >my Budapest Initiative colleagues to see if we might suggest some
> >other concrete actions for you to consider.
> >
> >BTW, in case Mary didn't mention it when she visited recently, SPARC
> >is developing on a whitepaper on institutional repositories that I
> >expect will be ready by June. This will describe the potential roles
> >of institutional digital repositories in the evolving structure of
> >scholarly communication, explore their impact on major stakeholders,
> >and articulate a SPARC strategy and tactical plan for promoting
> >their deployment. Perhaps someone from CIC could provide input on a
> >draft of this and/or we could explore opportunities for coordinated
> >action.
> >
> >I gather you are aware that ARL, CNI, and SPARC are planning to
> >co-sponsor a seminar on institutional repositories. I suppose we
> >should make sure the CIC and ARL/CNI/SPARC meetings are sufficiently
> >differentiated.
> >
> >Rick
> >
> >>Hi RIck,
> >>
> >>The CIC Library Directors met earlier this week and discussed the
> >>Budapest Initiative. As chair, I was asked to ask you if there are
> >>ways in which the CIC Library Directors group can be helpful. The
> >>CIC has signed on as has UIUC and some of us as individuals. And
> >>we'll be exploring issues related to creating robust institutional
> >>infrastructures to support self-publishing, alternative journals et
> >>al, probably in the fall at an organized conference. But, if there
> >>are other things we can do, we'd be glad to know.
> >>
> >>Our CIO (Pete Siegel) and I have told john that although his idea
> >>is interesting we can't support it right now -- financial pressures
> >>and lots of issues with the software and its projected development,
> >>which I can fill you in on in person or on the phone. Thanks for
> >>your offer of help -- we may be back to you with a different kind
> >>of request in the fall.
> >>
> >>See you soon,
> >>
> >>Paula
> >>
> >>Paula T. Kaufman 217-333--0790 phone
> >>University Librarian 217-244-4358 fax
> >>University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign [email protected]
> >>230 Library MC522
> >>1408 West Gregory Drive
> >>Urbana, IL 61801
>
>
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At the University of Padova we have installed EPRINTS 2.0 (version
released 14/02/2002), which is running very well. Actually, we are in a
test phase. Moreover, we are experimenting for the best solutions as
regards our organizational and research context.
One of our first problems lies in the subject tree. It's not only a
matter of language, but mainly of names and structure; we could want to
implement the tree designed by the Italian Ministero dell'Università e
della Ricerca Scientifica e Tecnologica
<http://www.miur.it/atti/2000/alladm001004_01.htm>
or
<http://www.unipa.it/~cdl/guriall/guri2000/ott00/a01.htm>
as this scheme is the
official reference for Italian academics.
Our concern is about harvesting: how can we do for allowing our metadata
to be harvested, even if subject organization can be different from the
one given in the package?
Thank you
Antonella De Robbio
Coordinator of the University of Padua Eprint Server Working Group
Italy
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Hi. I've just changed the list configuration for eprints-tech
and eprints-underground to restrict posting to members of the
list only. We had started getting spam posted to the list,
which is very annoying.
I'm also sending this from a different email address than usual
as the mailing list server seems to get confused between
[email protected] and [email protected] (which is our
bug tracker). Apologies for any weirdness this has caused people.
This change will almost certainly cause a few people problems -
those who are subscribed to an alias and post from their main
account. If you have a problem, let me know and I'll add your
email to the exceptions list.
Thanks, and sorry if this causes anyone problems.
chris.
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ePrints2 Coder, Support and Stuff +44 23 8059 4833
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(sorry for the weirdness, my mail settings were wrong and your mail got
sent to the wrong place)
You should not worry too much about the subjects being different to other
peoples. Most harvesters will harvest the entire contents of the archive.
Being able to harvest by subject is nice, but not very important.
You may also like to provide the "subjects" file you create to other
italian academics using eprints 2 so you have identical subject trees,
but don't worry too much at this stage.
On Thu, Apr 25, 2002 at 04:04:32PM +0100, [email protected] wrote:
> > Subject: [EP-underground] Subject areas and harvesting
> > From: Antonella De Robbio <[email protected]>
> > Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 17:39:37 +0200
> >
> >
> > At the University of Padova we have installed EPRINTS 2.0 (version
> > released 14/02/2002), which is running very well. Actually, we are in a
> >
> > test phase. Moreover, we are experimenting for the best solutions as
> > regards our organizational and research context.
> > One of our first problems lies in the subject tree. It's not only a
> > matter of language, but mainly of names and structure; we could want to
> > implement the tree designed by the Italian Ministero dell'Università e
> > della Ricerca Scientifica e Tecnologica
> > <http://www.miur.it/atti/2000/alladm001004_01.htm>
> > or
> > <http://www.unipa.it/~cdl/guriall/guri2000/ott00/a01.htm>
> > as this scheme is the
> > official reference for Italian academics.
> > Our concern is about harvesting: how can we do for allowing our metadata
> >
> > to be harvested, even if subject organization can be different from the
> > one given in the package?
> >
> > Thank you
> > Antonella De Robbio
> > Coordinator of the University of Padua Eprint Server Working Group
> > Italy
> >
> >
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ePrints2 Coder, Support and Stuff +44 23 8059 4833
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How are people doing getting eprints 2 up and running? The only
registered "live" site is in Austria. (not counting ones I've set
up myself). But I've given support to dozens of people, so there
must be a whole bunch of sites in "limbo".
I'm guessing that people have worked through the technical side
and are now working on the human issues. These seem as significant
as the software issues.
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