Re: Changing license to Apache License 2.0?

Daniel Dekany <[email protected]> Fri, 9 Aug 2013 10:58:36 +0200
Newsgroups gmane.comp.web.freemarker.user,gmane.comp.web.freemarker.devel
Message-ID <[email protected]>
So then, starting FreeMarker 2.3.21:
- The license will be "Apache License, Version 2.0"
- The copyright owner will change from "Visigoth Software Society" to:
  "Attila Szegedi, Daniel Dekany, Jonathan Revusky"

If anybody has anything comments on this matter, go ahead.

-- 
Thanks,
 Daniel Dekany


Thursday, August 8, 2013, 10:48:41 AM, Jonathan Revusky wrote:

> Sorry to have been so slow. I have no objection to the proposed license changes.
>
> JR
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Attila Szegedi <[email protected]> wrote:
> Oh, I'm totally fine with owner names' change.
>
> Yeah, changing to 3-clause BSD would also work. I'm actually fine
> with Apache too; if anyone's using FM with GPLv2, they won't be able
> to update, but then it's at least a decision we consciously made.
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 3:41 PM, Daniel Dekany <[email protected]> wrote:
> The problem with our licence is the advertisement clause. With that,
> our license is not even OSI-approved (anymore?), and most importantly,
> many has complained about this restriction. To fix that, we could just
> switch to 3-clause BSD license. But I thought that if we change the
> licence anyway, ASL 2 would be better, as it's far more widely used
> and as such more recognized in the Java world. Corporate layers can
> have surprising ideas (like, some may will miss the patent
> indemnification clause in the future... I really don't know), so I
> thought the safest thing to do is to join the herd.
>
> That ASL 2 is incompatible with GPLv2 is a good point, however, given
> how omnipresent ASL 2 is in the Java ecosystem, I wonder what will use
> FreeMarker (especially a new version of it) and yet not have any ASL 2
> dependency. So is that a real problem?
>
> Note the other important change as well: the owner will change. Any
> comments on that?
>
> --
> Thanks,
>  Daniel Dekany
>
>
> Wednesday, July 24, 2013, 2:55:45 PM, Attila Szegedi wrote:
>
>> I'm somewhat interested in the "why".
>>
>> The only substantial difference I see between the two licenses is
>> that Apache also has patent indemnification clauses. Admittedly, I
>> think that's a good thing, but I'm wondering if that's a substantial
>> need for most of our users.
>>
>> One specific issue where BSD is more permissive than Apache is that
>> BSD is one-way compatible with GPLv2 (e.g. you can incorporate BSD
>> software into GPLv2 software), but Apache isn't, specifically
>> because of the patent indemnification language that GPLv2 lacks;
>> Apache is one-way compatible with GPLv3 though.
>>
>> So, one consequence of the switch from BSD to Apache would be that
>> people could no longer incorporate FreeMarker into software that's
>> offered under GPLv2. I'm not saying that I'm against the move, just
>> saying that I want to make sure everybody understands the implications.
>>
>> Attila.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Daniel Dekany <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I would like to change the licence of FreeMarker from the 4-clause
>> BSD-style licence to Apache License 2.0. The copyright owner would
>> also change from "The Visigoth Software Society" (VSS) to "Attila
>> Szegedi, Dániel Dékány, Jonathan Revusky" (they are the current
>> project owners according the CLA) as VSS is inactive. This I would
>> like to do as soon as possible, like even starting from FreeMarker
>> 2.3.21.
>>
>> Attila, Jonathan, do you agree, or want something differently?
>>
>> Anybody has advices or any comments on this mater? (Like, if you
>> depend heavily on FreeMarker and have a company lawyer to ask, that
>> would great. All help is appreciated!)
>>
>> --
>> Thanks,
>>  Daniel Dekany
>>
>>
>
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