Re: Re: [Galeon-user] Feature/port request in Galeon 1.3.x: session support

On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 06:13:04PM +0200, Tommi Komulainen wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 2003-03-20 at 16:35, Sven Luther wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 04:13:08PM +0200, Tommi Komulainen wrote:
> > > 
> > > On Thu, 2003-03-20 at 01:55, Tomasz Mrugalski wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > There was a really cool feature in 1.2.x: session support, espacially
> > > > "open latest". It really helped a lot. I read the same sites every day, so
> > > > I've saved session called 'news'. Every moring I had to click only once
> > > > to visit all my favourite sites.
> > > > 
> > > > Are there plans to port this feature do Galeon 1.3.x?
> > > 
> > > Maybe..  AFAIK, the support is already there, but you just can't access
> > > it from the UI.
> > 
> > So the solution is no more to use the bookmark folders for that ?
> 
> The bookmarks folders have never been intended to fully replace the
> sessions functionality (someone correct me if I'm wrong) they are merely
> being a substitute until the real thing gets back (if it gets back.)

Err, i think that i remember mails to this effect on this mailing list,
but it was probably lost at the height of the flamewar that preceded the
epiphany fork.

> IIRC, a session included all windows in all workspaces, and all open
> tabs in all windows.  This is not possible to do with just the bookmarks
> (extending the bookmarks to achieve that is not an option, see the
> archives.)

what about using sub-folders for separate windows ? You would loose the
windows position and workspace info though.

> Anyway, having never much used the user defined sessions, it's somewhat
> unclear to me what exactly are the use cases, and what exactly is
> considered a session in this context.  For example, including windows in
> other workspaces feels like it's more confusing than it's worth.

I personnaly only use one windows with lot of tabs, i cannot say much
about this then. Or if i have more than one window, they still stay in
the same workspace, exclusively reserved to galeon, with maybe a console
for mutt.

> I'd argue most people don't care about sessions, and of those who do,
> most would just like to be able to save the state of the current window
> and all its tabs and call it a session.

This would probably be served well by bookmark folder solution anyway.
What would be nice is to have a way to easily modify such a bookmark
folder anyway.

> IMHO, the whole issue needs to be discussed with the usability team
> before there's any chance of getting it implemented properly.  I think
> it was discussed before, at least partially, but I can't remember the
> outcome.¹
> 
> Oh, and I'm leaving this to someone who cares about the sessions to
> handle...

:)))

> > What does the HIG say about that ? Does it go beyond that you shouldn't
> > have a most recently opened doc kind of thing in the files menu ?
> 
> Hmm, I can't remember straight away how the recent files thingie was
> intended to be used in applications, maybe we should be adding that
> too.  However, the sessions are a wildly different thing, and it's
> independent of recent files.

Not when you think about recent sessions (or bookmark folders).

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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