Re: Ideas/Regressions

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>...and putting somewhat frequently needed functionality in some tab
>inside a dialog that is reachable from the menus is just as bad.

I never said the opposite. I'm just sure such a feature is not only unused
but even obscure to vaste majority of web browsers users.

>I'd be more than happy to remove the whole option myself and have JS
>always enabled if simply worked.  But the Internet is broken.  There are
>too many sites that use JS for all the wrong things.  And many of those
>who can use JS right, write it compatible with IE only and similar
>shortcomings.
>
>Unfortunately, until everything "just works" we need that option.  If
>you don't need that, good for you, but some of us do.
>

It's in the dialog for the few people that understand it.
It's just two clicks more after all.

>> - An ui exposing complex implementation details (javascript is an implementation
>> detail of web pages) that many user cannot understand doesnt certainly
>improve
>> their feel with the application.
>
>And cookies aren't? (see the PDM)  

It is and I'm not even sure it's that important to have it.
I'd argue password part of pdm is less advanced.
But there is an huge difference: I'm not providing a shortcut to say remove
all cookies. I'm providing a way to delete them in a separate dialog like
I'm doing in the prefs dialog for js and java.

> Though, if you can get the
>java/javascript console popped up using 'javascript:' URL as you said in
>your other mail, 'cookies:' for PDM might work as well.

java/javascript console are web developers features while pdm is a web user
feature. I want galeon to be targeted to web users, I dont care about developers.

>> - There is the risk an user accidentally enable this option (with menus
>> is easy) and then he would probably never understand himself why web
pages
>> doesnt work anymore
>
>Ok, this can be somewhat of a problem since there is no visual
>indication for how javascript affects the looks of the web pages.  But
>has anyone really complained about that?  It's a mistake you usually
>make only once, and even that only if you go turning knobs you know
>nothing about.

If you make the mistake one time, as I already said, you are very probably
not going to get back your browser to previous status (assuming you dont
know what js is).
Also, I have no doubts we will never seen complaints about this because
users that send mail to mailing lists and to bugzilla does know what is
javascript. But it's not a good reason to ignore the problem.

Marco



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