Re: Galeon 1.2.5 to 1.3.19 conveersion a couple of questions

On Sun, Feb 06, 2005 at 02:52:12PM +1100, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:
> On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 11:02, [email protected] wrote:
> > >>>If that provides the same functianlity, I cant figure out how to do it.
> > >>> The functionality that "sessiosn" provides is the abilty to store one
> > >>> or more groups of tabs, such that I can simply select a session, and
> > >>> wind up with several tabs each open to the desired site.
> > >>>
> > >>>How can I acomplish this in the new version?
> > >>
> > >>   Bookmarks/Add Tabs As Folder makes folder with all currently open
> > >>tabs saved as bookmarks in that folder. Then I close all tabs, then I
> > >>right click on that bookmark folder newly created and say Open folder in
> > >>Tabs. All tabs are back and shining. Looks just what you're describing.
> > >> :)
> 
> What you describe is _not_ session management, and is very cumbersome by 
> comparison. Saving a session involves saving and restoring the details (URI, 
> name, etc.) of every tab in every window, in the correct order. There should 
> be crash protection: if Galeon crashes, it provides an option to restore the 
> entire session upon restart. Galeon 1.x has had an excellent implementation 
> of session management for quite some time.

That says what I was trying to say in my email, better than I did.

Thanks for summing it up so well!
> 
> > > What's the rationale behind removing basic functionality?
> >
> >    Seems like redudant functionality to me, same as your first point -
> > there is explicit well-known URL input already, no need for duplicating,
> > IMHO.
> >    Here http://ometer.com/free-software-ui.html and here
> > http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gup/hig/ you may find some answers
> > regarding "The Gnome way of things". Seek for "The Question of
> > Preferences". Streamlining, simplicity, consistency, maintainability are
> > the buzzwords - technically savvy features seeking geeks are minority of
> > minority. :)
> 
> I don't understand why Galeon is trying so hard to follow GNOME's guidelines. 
> After all, isn't Epiphany the default GNOME Web browser? Why compete for the 
> same user base when there's a whole lot of people who want something else? 
> I'm not saying that Galeon should be a convoluted mess, but by the same token 
> I fail to see any reason why it should be ultra-simple like Epiphany or 
> Safari. Galeon 1.2 was the ultimate power browser, so why make such a radical 
> change in direction? There are many good things which can be learnt from the 
> HIG in terms of software design and UI layout (I am not anti-HIG or 
> anti-GNOME2), but IMHO Galeon can improve upon these without compromising 
> functionality in any major way. I am not adverse to an extensions system 
> (like Firefox and Epiphany) or hiding more complex functionality in Gconf.
> 
> I still use Galeon 1.2.x as my primary Web browser. I evaluate each new 
> release of Firefox, Konqueror and Opera as a possible alternative, but I keep 
> coming back. The fact that such an old browser can still compete favourably 
> against (supposedly) the latest and greatest is a testament to its quality. 
> That quality should be leveraged, not ignored.

Once agai, you have really stated my position on this netter than I could!


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