Re: gtweakui

On Wed, 13 Jul 2005, Bear Tooth wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Jul 2005, Nix wrote:
> 
>>> Do I just type "gtweakui" -- probably as root? -- and hit enter?? Or ....
>>
>> Is `ls -l /usr/bin/gtweakui-*' so hard? Command-line completion will do
>> it for you!
>>
>> /usr/bin/gtweakui-galeon    /usr/bin/gtweakui-menus
>> /usr/bin/gtweakui-nautilus  /usr/bin/gtweakui-session
> 
> Yes, it's ridiculous, thank you not at all, when I have no idea -- as
> I had just said -- where it is.

It's a program. They're normally --- OK, invariably --- in /usr/bin.

(`Thank you not at all'? You asked how to start gtweakui. It should now
be obvious. I don't normally go around telling everyone who asks
questions like this `programs are in /usr/bin', because virtually
everyone who'd ask such a question already knows that everything in
/usr/bin is, in fact, a program. Absent telepathy I had no way of
telling that you didn't know this. Since 95%+ of Unix/Linux users do,
my initial assumption was reasonable.)

>  	I found a better way -- slightly. The GUI search function -- 

That's a very much more long-winded way, assuming you're trying to work
out what to *type* --- you're probably already at an xterm/gnome-terminal
in that situation. But they all work.

> we *were* talking GUI adjustment, weren't we? -- found it; and a

Well, yes, but that doesn't mean you're constrained to use GUIs to find
programs just because they happen to have a GUI attached to them. You
can use whatever mechanism suits you.

In fact as gtweakui is rather alpha-quality and still doesn't `connect'
to any part of GNOME you might expect, the command-line is probably
preferable --- you might expect to find it in the GNOME control center,
for instance, but it isn't there yet. So GUIs might lead you astray
here.

> little clicking got me to a GUI presentation of that folder with those
> files. And in fact, either the GUI "Properties" option or "file
> /usr/bin/gtweak<whatever> will tell me what kind of file each is.

You run them. They're programs --- like everything in /usr/bin. :)

(Perhaps typing `gtweakui-galeon' and seeing what happened --- when you
had the filename *actually in front of you in that email* would have
been a good idea. After all, if you're not root, you're pretty safe from
harming anything, no matter *what* you type in.)

>  	And all of that is absolutely no help whatever. It gives me no
>  	idea how to use the fool thing.

Type the name. Hit return, Click on things.

It's about as simple as any program ever gets. It's about as hard as
logging in. In fact, it's easier, 'cos you don't need to remember
any passwords or worry about typos or anything. :)

>  	If user-enmity is to be the new attitude on the list, maybe I'd

I hate to say it, but the only enmity I can detect here is yours.
Several times now, you've asked questions, others have answered them,
and you've returned them with hostility simply because they didn't
phrase their responses in *exactly* the right way.

>  	better stick to Epiphany and Firefox, for both of which I
>  	routinely get advice which neither is nor means to be wantonly
>  	offensive.

Your wanton-offensiveness meter is set *way* too high. The only
hostility I've seen has come from *you*.

-- 
`But of course, GR is the very best relativity for the masses.'
 --- Wayne Throop


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