Re: Changes to tag and rest controllers

Chad Kieffer <[email protected]> Fri, 17 May 2013 09:56:36 -0600
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Although tags are strictly flat now, how might hierarchical structures be ro=
uted in the future? I think even if support for taxonomies isn't part of G3 n=
ow, it might be worth considering as part of this discussion.

- Chad

On May 17, 2013, at 9:15 AM, Shad Laws <shad-xpYdmXCiSuZWk0Htik3J/[email protected]> wrote:

> Hmm... I'm not sure I agree.  For example, this would make folks with phot=
os about 90210, 356, and 1776 really annoyed at the new system.  The simples=
t rule is the one we don't need :-)
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> My preference is this:
> - make the new system simple, flexible, and exactly what we want.
> - provide enough redirects for old URLs to keep most old sites happy durin=
g the conversion.
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> Thinking again, there's actually a better rule we can use to deal with old=
 redirects:
> gallery30x/tag/123/321 --> tag id 123 (which coincidentally has name 321, b=
ut this isn't checked) - old canonical URL
> gallery31x/tag/123/321 --> tag id 123, name 321 (sees slash and tries this=
), then 301 redirect.
> gallery31x/tag/123 --> tag name 123, or if none exists, look for a tag id 1=
23 and 301 redirect.
> gallery31x/tag/321 --> tag name 321 (which coincidentally has id 123, but t=
his isn't checked) - new canonical URL
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> The only oddball case here is old URLs that were truncated *and* coincide w=
ith new URLs, for which I don't think we should break our new system to supp=
ort...
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> Take care,
> Shad
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> On 17 May 2013 17:06, Bharat Mediratta <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> I'd prefer to have a simpler rule of "no numeric tag slugs" because that w=
ay we'll have consistent behavior in all cases.  I like simple rules :-)
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>> On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 7:55 AM, Shad Laws <shad-xpYdmXCiSuZWk0Htik3J/[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Yah, that's easy enough to keep.  Just as you said, the only slight wrin=
kle is numeric tag names, but even then we don't need to *enforce* that slug=
s are non-numeric.  Rather, we just can't forward old URLs that coincide wit=
h new URLs of numeric tags.
>>>=20
>>> For example:
>>> gallery30x/tag/123 --> tag id 123.
>>> gallery31x/tag/123 --> tag name 123, or if none exists, look for a tag i=
d 123 and 301 redirect.
>>>=20
>>> Take care,
>>> Shad
>>>=20
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>>> On 17 May 2013 16:42, Bharat Mediratta <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>>> Keeping around support for tag/<id> shouldn't be too hard, right?  It j=
ust means that the user-defined slug can't be purely numeric to avoid confli=
cts.
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>>>> On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 6:34 AM, Dave Moore <[email protected]> wrote=
:
>>>>> On 2013-05-15 8:29 PM, Bharat wrote:
>>>>> >  The tag/<id>/<name> approach was essentially a fix because original=
ly
>>>>> > we did tag/<name> but that was causing problems when we tried to map=
 a
>>>>> > slugified tag name in the url back into a tag in the database.
>>>>> That has been some concern for me and for others as well.  I would be
>>>>> nice if we could get to: /tag/<name> without the <id> in the url.  If
>>>>> that could be sorted out then that would make some/lots users/me happy=
.
>>>>> I don't know about backwards compatibility with tag/<id>/<name> is
>>>>> required or not. I guess it depends on the amount of work required.  I=

>>>>> guess it would be good or if some workaround in the .htaccess could be=

>>>>> provided as a fix, that would work as well.
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<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Although tags are strictly flat now, how might hierarchical structures be routed in the future? I think even if support for taxonomies isn't part of G3 now, it might be worth considering as part of this discussion.</div><div><br></div><div>- Chad</div><div><br>On May 17, 2013, at 9:15 AM, Shad Laws &lt;<a href="mailto:shad-xpYdmXCiSuZWk0Htik3J/[email protected]">shad-xpYdmXCiSuZWk0Htik3J/[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr">Hmm... I'm not sure I agree. &nbsp;For example, this would make folks with photos about 90210, 356, and 1776 really annoyed at the new system. &nbsp;The simplest rule is the one we don't need :-)<div><br></div>

<div style="">My preference is this:</div><div style="">- make the new system simple, flexible, and exactly what we want.</div><div style="">- provide enough redirects for old URLs to keep most old sites happy during the conversion.</div>

<div style=""><br></div><div style="">Thinking again, there's actually a better rule we can use to deal with old redirects:</div><div style=""><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">gallery30x/tag/123/321 --&gt; tag id 123 (which coincidentally has name 321, but this isn't checked) - old canonical URL</div>

<div style="font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">gallery31x/tag/123/321 --&gt; tag id 123, name 321 (sees slash and tries this), then 301 redirect.</div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">gallery31x/tag/123 --&gt; tag name 123, or if none exists, look for a tag id 123 and 301 redirect.</div>

<div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">gallery31x/tag/321 --&gt; tag name 321 (which coincidentally has id 123, but this isn't checked) - new canonical URL</div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">

<br></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">The only oddball case here is old URLs that were truncated *and* coincide with new URLs, for which I don't think we should break our new system to support...</div>

<div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Take care,</div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Shad</div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">

<br></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 17 May 2013 17:06, Bharat Mediratta <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:[email protected]" target="_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><br><div>I'd prefer to have a simpler rule of "no numeric tag slugs" because that way we'll have consistent behavior in all cases. &nbsp;I like simple rules :-)</div>

</div><div class="gmail_extra">

<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 7:55 AM, Shad Laws <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:shad-xpYdmXCiSuZWk0Htik3J/[email protected]" target="_blank">shad-xpYdmXCiSuZWk0Htik3J/[email protected]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">



<div dir="ltr">Yah, that's easy enough to keep. &nbsp;Just as you said, the only slight wrinkle is numeric tag names, but even then we don't need to *enforce* that slugs are non-numeric. &nbsp;Rather, we just can't forward old URLs that coincide with new URLs of numeric tags.<div>





<br></div><div>For example:</div><div>gallery30x/tag/123 --&gt; tag id 123.</div><div>gallery31x/tag/123 --&gt; tag name 123, or if none exists, look for a tag id 123 and 301 redirect.</div><div><br></div>

<div>Take care,</div><div>Shad</div></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 17 May 2013 16:42, Bharat Mediratta <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:[email protected]" target="_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>





<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><br><div>Keeping around support for tag/&lt;id&gt; shouldn't be too hard, right? &nbsp;It just means that the user-defined slug can't be purely numeric to avoid conflicts.</div>





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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 6:34 AM, Dave Moore <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:[email protected]" target="_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">







<div>On 2013-05-15 8:29 PM, Bharat wrote:<br>
&gt; &nbsp;The tag/&lt;id&gt;/&lt;name&gt; approach was essentially a fix because originally<br>
&gt; we did tag/&lt;name&gt; but that was causing problems when we tried to map a<br>
&gt; slugified tag name in the url back into a tag in the database.<br>
</div>That has been some concern for me and for others as well. &nbsp;I would be<br>
nice if we could get to: /tag/&lt;name&gt; without the &lt;id&gt; in the url. &nbsp;If<br>
that could be sorted out then that would make some/lots users/me happy.<br>
I don't know about backwards compatibility with tag/&lt;id&gt;/&lt;name&gt; is<br>
required or not. I guess it depends on the amount of work required. &nbsp;I<br>
guess it would be good or if some workaround in the .htaccess could be<br>
provided as a fix, that would work as well.<br>
<span><font color="#888888"><br>
Dave<br>
</font></span><div><div><br>
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