Re: Changes to tag and rest controllers

Shad Laws <shad-xpYdmXCiSuZWk0Htik3J/[email protected]> Fri, 17 May 2013 18:39:54 +0200
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Hmm... good question.

My first inclination isn't to make a hierarchy, but rather an extra
cross-reference.  For example, "gallery/tag/me/you" would find photos
tagged with both me and you.  Thoughts?

Take care,
Shad


On 17 May 2013 17:56, Chad Kieffer <[email protected]> wrote:

> Although tags are strictly flat now, how might hierarchical structures be
> routed in the future? I think even if support for taxonomies isn't part of
> G3 now, it might be worth considering as part of this discussion.
>
> - Chad
>
> On May 17, 2013, at 9:15 AM, Shad Laws <shad-xpYdmXCiSuZWk0Htik3J/[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hmm... I'm not sure I agree.  For example, this would make folks with
> photos about 90210, 356, and 1776 really annoyed at the new system.  The
> simplest rule is the one we don't need :-)
>
> My preference is this:
> - make the new system simple, flexible, and exactly what we want.
> - provide enough redirects for old URLs to keep most old sites happy
> during the conversion.
>
> Thinking again, there's actually a better rule we can use to deal with old
> redirects:
> gallery30x/tag/123/321 --> tag id 123 (which coincidentally has name 321,
> but this isn't checked) - old canonical URL
> gallery31x/tag/123/321 --> tag id 123, name 321 (sees slash and tries
> this), then 301 redirect.
> gallery31x/tag/123 --> tag name 123, or if none exists, look for a tag id
> 123 and 301 redirect.
> gallery31x/tag/321 --> tag name 321 (which coincidentally has id 123, but
> this isn't checked) - new canonical URL
>
> The only oddball case here is old URLs that were truncated *and* coincide
> with new URLs, for which I don't think we should break our new system to
> support...
>
> Take care,
> Shad
>
>
>
> On 17 May 2013 17:06, Bharat Mediratta <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> I'd prefer to have a simpler rule of "no numeric tag slugs" because that
>> way we'll have consistent behavior in all cases.  I like simple rules :-)
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 7:55 AM, Shad Laws <shad-xpYdmXCiSuZWk0Htik3J/[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Yah, that's easy enough to keep.  Just as you said, the only slight
>>> wrinkle is numeric tag names, but even then we don't need to *enforce* that
>>> slugs are non-numeric.  Rather, we just can't forward old URLs that
>>> coincide with new URLs of numeric tags.
>>>
>>> For example:
>>> gallery30x/tag/123 --> tag id 123.
>>> gallery31x/tag/123 --> tag name 123, or if none exists, look for a tag
>>> id 123 and 301 redirect.
>>>
>>> Take care,
>>> Shad
>>>
>>>
>>> On 17 May 2013 16:42, Bharat Mediratta <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Keeping around support for tag/<id> shouldn't be too hard, right?  It
>>>> just means that the user-defined slug can't be purely numeric to avoid
>>>> conflicts.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 6:34 AM, Dave Moore <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2013-05-15 8:29 PM, Bharat wrote:
>>>>> >  The tag/<id>/<name> approach was essentially a fix because
>>>>> originally
>>>>> > we did tag/<name> but that was causing problems when we tried to map
>>>>> a
>>>>> > slugified tag name in the url back into a tag in the database.
>>>>> That has been some concern for me and for others as well.  I would be
>>>>> nice if we could get to: /tag/<name> without the <id> in the url.  If
>>>>> that could be sorted out then that would make some/lots users/me happy.
>>>>> I don't know about backwards compatibility with tag/<id>/<name> is
>>>>> required or not. I guess it depends on the amount of work required.  I
>>>>> guess it would be good or if some workaround in the .htaccess could be
>>>>> provided as a fix, that would work as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave
>>>>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hmm... good question.<div><br></div><div>My first inclinat=
ion isn&#39;t to make a hierarchy, but rather an extra cross-reference. =C2=
=A0For example, &quot;gallery/tag/me/you&quot; would find photos tagged wit=
h both me and you. =C2=A0Thoughts?<div>

<br></div><div>Take care,</div><div>Shad</div></div></div><div class=3D"gma=
il_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 17 May 2013 17:56, Chad Kie=
ffer <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_bla=
nk">[email protected]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><div>Although tags are str=
ictly flat now, how might hierarchical structures be routed in the future? =
I think even if support for taxonomies isn&#39;t part of G3 now, it might b=
e worth considering as part of this discussion.</div>

<div><br></div><div>- Chad</div><div><br>On May 17, 2013, at 9:15 AM, Shad =
Laws &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:shad-xpYdmXCiSuZWk0Htik3J/[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">shad@shadla=
ws.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">

Hmm... I&#39;m not sure I agree. =C2=A0For example, this would make folks w=
ith photos about 90210, 356, and 1776 really annoyed at the new system. =C2=
=A0The simplest rule is the one we don&#39;t need :-)<div><br></div>

<div>My preference is this:</div><div>- make the new system simple, flexibl=
e, and exactly what we want.</div><div>- provide enough redirects for old U=
RLs to keep most old sites happy during the conversion.</div>

<div><br></div><div>Thinking again, there&#39;s actually a better rule we c=
an use to deal with old redirects:</div><div><div style=3D"font-family:aria=
l,sans-serif;font-size:13px">gallery30x/tag/123/321 --&gt; tag id 123 (whic=
h coincidentally has name 321, but this isn&#39;t checked) - old canonical =
URL</div>



<div style=3D"font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">gallery31x/tag/1=
23/321 --&gt; tag id 123, name 321 (sees slash and tries this), then 301 re=
direct.</div><div style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">gal=
lery31x/tag/123 --&gt; tag name 123, or if none exists, look for a tag id 1=
23 and 301 redirect.</div>



<div style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">gallery31x/tag/3=
21 --&gt; tag name 321 (which coincidentally has id 123, but this isn&#39;t=
 checked) - new canonical URL</div><div style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-ser=
if;font-size:13px">



<br></div><div style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">The on=
ly oddball case here is old URLs that were truncated *and* coincide with ne=
w URLs, for which I don&#39;t think we should break our new system to suppo=
rt...</div>



<div style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br></div><div s=
tyle=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Take care,</div><div s=
tyle=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Shad</div><div style=
=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">



<br></div></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmai=
l_quote">On 17 May 2013 17:06, Bharat Mediratta <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&g=
t;</span> wrote:<br>



<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div>I&#39;d prefer to =
have a simpler rule of &quot;no numeric tag slugs&quot; because that way we=
&#39;ll have consistent behavior in all cases. =C2=A0I like simple rules :-=
)</div>



</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">

<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 7:55 AM, Shad La=
ws <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:shad-xpYdmXCiSuZWk0Htik3J/[email protected]" target=3D"_bl=
ank">shad-xpYdmXCiSuZWk0Htik3J/[email protected]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_=
quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1=
ex">





<div dir=3D"ltr">Yah, that&#39;s easy enough to keep. =C2=A0Just as you sai=
d, the only slight wrinkle is numeric tag names, but even then we don&#39;t=
 need to *enforce* that slugs are non-numeric. =C2=A0Rather, we just can&#3=
9;t forward old URLs that coincide with new URLs of numeric tags.<div>







<br></div><div>For example:</div><div>gallery30x/tag/123 --&gt; tag id 123.=
</div><div>gallery31x/tag/123 --&gt; tag name 123, or if none exists, look =
for a tag id 123 and 301 redirect.</div><div><br></div>

<div>Take care,</div><div>Shad</div></div><div><div><div class=3D"gmail_ext=
ra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 17 May 2013 16:42, Bharat Medirat=
ta <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_b=
lank">[email protected]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>







<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div>Keeping around sup=
port for tag/&lt;id&gt; shouldn&#39;t be too hard, right? =C2=A0It just mea=
ns that the user-defined slug can&#39;t be purely numeric to avoid conflict=
s.</div>







</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">

<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 6:34 AM, Dave Mo=
ore <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"=
_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"g=
mail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-l=
eft:1ex">









<div>On 2013-05-15 8:29 PM, Bharat wrote:<br>
&gt; =C2=A0The tag/&lt;id&gt;/&lt;name&gt; approach was essentially a fix b=
ecause originally<br>
&gt; we did tag/&lt;name&gt; but that was causing problems when we tried to=
 map a<br>
&gt; slugified tag name in the url back into a tag in the database.<br>
</div>That has been some concern for me and for others as well. =C2=A0I wou=
ld be<br>
nice if we could get to: /tag/&lt;name&gt; without the &lt;id&gt; in the ur=
l. =C2=A0If<br>
that could be sorted out then that would make some/lots users/me happy.<br>
I don&#39;t know about backwards compatibility with tag/&lt;id&gt;/&lt;name=
&gt; is<br>
required or not. I guess it depends on the amount of work required. =C2=A0I=
<br>
guess it would be good or if some workaround in the .htaccess could be<br>
provided as a fix, that would work as well.<br>
<span><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
Dave<br>
</font></span><div><div><br>
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