Re: adding accessibility test suite

Terry Teague <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.web.html-tidy.devel
Message-ID <l03130300be5d90e178c1@[17.219.128.50]>
At 6:35 PM +0000 3/15/05, Arnaud Desitter wrote:
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Bjoern Hoehrmann" <[email protected]>
>To: "Arnaud Desitter" <[email protected]>
>Cc: <[email protected]>
>Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 6:27 PM
>Subject: Re: [Tidy-dev] adding accessibility test suite
>
>
>>* Arnaud Desitter wrote:
>>>A while back, I brushed up somewhat the accessibility test suite
>>>available at http://www.aprompt.ca/Tidy/accessibilitychecks.html.


Cool. I would be interested to know what you "brushed up". I used modified
versions of these tests myself to test my builds of Tidy.


>>>In my opinion, it is a good idea to add more test cases so that
>>>tidy can be tested regularly. And who knows, somebody may even


Originally we were adding test cases as we got bug reports, where a
reasonable test case could be created. I think this process somewhat broke
down long ago, and stayed that way until recently when you started
contributing. I agree with you.


>>>make the access tests more useful in the future.
>>>Is anybody against adding them to tidy/test ?


No objection from me.


>> Under what terms are those tests available? I could not find any
>> copyright or licence information on the website and the .zip file
>> seems to be broken.
>
>The short answer is that I don't know. I don't remember how I got
>the test suite. I must have written a quick script to collect the pages
>and then extracted the HTML and, finally, massaged it somewhat.


Not sure either, but asking the right people should get an answer. Re the
broken zip file - we can get that fixed if it is broken, I know I have
various archive versions of the test cases that I got directly from the
author (and checking my Emails, apparently between the 2 of us we had
problems with zip files we exchanged with each other through EMail).


>AFAIK, this test suite has been written by the same guys that wrote
>"access.c" so the license should be the same.
>It is not clear to me how "access.c" came to be in tidy. Surely, you
>must know. I looked in the mail archive but details are sparse.


I was the person who worked with the original authors (Mike Lam and Chris
Ridpath at the Adaptive Technology Resource Centre at the University of
Toronto) to integrate the code into Tidy.

The last EMail conversation I had with them was about 6 months ago, and was
related to the following :

>You may know that there is a new set of accessibility guidelines under
>development, the WCAG version 2. These guidelines have many differences over
>the old ones and the accessibility checks in Tidy should be updated. The
>date for release of the new guidelines is first quarter 2005.


I am copying them directly on this EMail (although I believe they also
subscribe to the tidy-dev mailing list), for their opinions on the above
matters.


Regards, Terry




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