Re: Trougleshooting .alb files

Moira,

I can't see why this would not work. The state of Pixory is 1) in the
pictures, 2) in the .alb (your rotation f.i.) and 3) in the Hypersonic
data (under <somedir>/.pixory/data There is no special machine or
directory data stored in this state. And thus a transfer should be
relatively easy.

But why don't you just try?
Just create a second instance of Pixory on 1 machine (either under
Jetty) or as a Webapp and just try it. This should be rather easy and
in 15 minutes you have your answer.

regards,

Ronald


--- In [email protected], "Moira O'Brien" <mj@m...> wrote:
> Joe
> 
> As a further issue to this, I wish to transfer my existing Pixory
from one
> computer to a new one preserving all the rotation, text and other
> adjustments made to the albums.  Is this possible?  recreating the whole
> site from scratch would be quite a mammoth task.
> 
> regards
> 
> Moira
>  
> -------Original Message-------
>  
> From: Alon :)
> Date: 07/25/05 21:46:38
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [pixory-beta] Re: Trougleshooting .alb files
>  
> Joe,
>  
> What is the recommended procedure for backing up and restoring my pixory
> settings, including narratives, in the event of a system crash?  For
example
>  I have just started using Adobe Elements to index and archive my
photos. 
> So I assume I will have to backup my .alb files separately?  Wow,
that would
> be a chore.  How would I back them up and track what folder they
came from? 
> Unless I backup my full folder structure, pics, albs, and all.  But
then I
> am either backing it up twice (once manually and once with Elements)
or I
> lose the functionality of Adobe Elements or like software.  It seems
to me
> this a drawback of the current structure of the alb files.  
>  
> Restoring manually seems quit difficult.  For example, after
updating some
> narratives in the album where I lost my previous narratives, the alb
file
> was created new at the next startup of Pixory.  So I copied and
pasted the
> contents of the old alb into the new alb file from <name> down.  Now
upon
> another restart the alb file has again been recreated.  Thereby
dropping my
> previous settings and narratives again.  And as previously noted, simply
> renaming the old .alb does not do the trick (I assume because of the
<name>
> field in the xml).
>  
> Contrary to what you believe, I do not believe .alb files should be
"user
> manipulable."  I am just stating what I see as a fact.  Since data
is stored
> in the .alb files, the .alb will get screwed up sometimes and will
need to
> be manually edited or restored, especially since Pixory is beta.  So the
> restore process should be more intuitive.
>  
> I understand the Pixory has no built in function to restore the .alb
files,
> however, I see no reliable manual method either.  And so what I am
asking is
> if there is an "official" backup and restore procedure.
>  
> Alon J
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of Joe Panico
> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 4:15 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [pixory-beta] Re: Trougleshooting .alb files
>  
> Alon,
> 
> If you search through back posts in this group, you will find a couple
> of places where I have outlined what is stored in the .alb files
> versus what goes in the database.
> 
> Very briefly, anything that pertains to only 1 album goes in the .alb
> file. Information that cuts across albums is stored in the database. 
> 
> For all intents and purposes, the .alb file is the one and only true
> place where narratives and captions are stored. That is by design.
> Contrary to what you believe, the .alb files were not intended to be
> "user manipulable". If I had wanted users to edit .alb files directly,
> I would not have made them XML. Only Pixory should write .alb files.
> The reason Pixory stores this information in separate .XML files is as
> a failsafe. In case Pixory malfunctions or you decide to stop using
> Pixory, you still have access to all of your information in a textual
> form (as opposed to locked in some database you can't get at). 
> 
> Pixory has no function to restore .alb files. The information is not
> reliably stored anywhere else in Pixory. It's the responsibility of
> the users to back up there .alb files.
> 
> regards,
> 
> joe
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], "Alon :\)" <alonfw@w...> wrote:
> > As I was playing with one of my albums .alb files to troubleshoot a
> problem
> > I lost all of my narratives :-(  I know, my fault for not backing
it up.
> > But what is the best way to "restore" an alb file?  Simply replacing
> it does
> > not work because the file name changes.  And renaming it to the
new file
> > name does not work either.  I renamed by backup to the new name, and
> it did
> > not work, so I went into the composer and changed a setting.  Pixory
> then
> > wiped out all of my narratives.  So should I have replaced the
> contents of
> > the new file with the contents of the old file?
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > This seems to be a overly burdensome process for a part of the
> system which
> > I would imagine would be commonly played with.  I have messed with
> alb files
> > while troubleshooting at least twice in the past, and each time have
> lost my
> > narratives because I tried the obvious "restore" options (renaming and
> > replacing) which don't work.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Alon :-)
> > 
> > 
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> 
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