RE: Re: Invite

I have tried two different SMTP servers. That is not the problem.

I found that the instruction given in the previous post as to finding the
url works fine. It does not go in the email as a long URL but rather as an
icon as an attachment and is very easy for anyone to use. I thank all for
the help.

I am not going to mess with anything form the Pegasus set of applications.
They are nothing but trouble and do not handle email in a standard way.
Perhaps Mercury is good but I have no problem using my provider.

Well I did not until trying this Pixory thing but I have to say again that
it is not the provider unless all I tried had the same problem.

Since the url ahs now been found and I now know how to do it that will be
all I need. I look forward to the time when Pixory supports multiple user
access by user id and password. I hope that when that happens you can
cnfigure each user to have access to only a selected set of pictures, or at
lesat a selected set of albums, that woudl be heaven.
Another great enhancement would be to serve video also.




Gil, W0MN http://webpages.charter.net/gbaron
N 44.082056  W 92.513024 1050'
Hierro Candente, Batir de repente

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Panico [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 9:33 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [pixory-beta] Re: Invite
>
>
> Gil,
>
> > my pcs. Perhaps that should be aclue,
>
> Yep, it's a clue. The commonality is that you keep trying the same
> smtp server. Try a different smtp server if you really want to "try
> something different".
>
> Most likely the problem resides at your ISP. Why don't you simply send
> them an email and ask them if their server authenticates via
> pop-beore-smtp? Or check their support website for your problem. I'm
> sure they'll send you an answer. If they are using pop-before-smtp,
> then Pixory will display exactly the symptoms you are seeing-- mail
> mysteriously vanishes, never reaching its destination and never
> generating any error messages. It's a known fact that this is the
> behaviour of JavaMail when confronted with a "pop-beore-smtp" server.
>
>
> regards,
>
> joe
>
> --- In [email protected], "rojomn" <rojomn@c...> wrote:
> > I agree he gone out of his way to debug this problme. I find it hard to
> > think it does not affect anyone else since it does the same thing on
> both of
> > my pcs. Perhaps that should be aclue, the commnon htings between
> then ist he
> > router. Maybe if I remove that?
> >
> > I see that the url to send is reallly really long. It si solong that
> most
> > email wil break it up and the user will have to do a lot fo cut and
> paste to
> > use it.
> >
> > Maybe I will jsut send a few trueted peoele the id/pword so that
> they can
> > get ot it . Htat woud wrok much more easily but is jsut as secure s
> the url
> > likn since ther is only one htat is the same for anyone that gets the
> > invite.
> >
> > Thanks for the explanation of finding the link. That will really be
> all that
> > I need.
> >
> >
> >
> > Gil, W0MN http://webpages.charter.net/gbaron
> > N 44.082056  W 92.513024 1050'
> > Hierro Candente, Batir de repente
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Gunnar Heikkilä [mailto:gunnar.heikkila.1@h...]
> > > Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 3:00 AM
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: [pixory-beta] Invite
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Gil,
> > >
> > > despite the Mercury homepage info that it supports "95, 98, NT4 or
> > > 2000" it does also run on WinXP. I have used it for quite a while
> > > now on WinXP Home, and if you check newsgroup entries you can see
> > > that I am not the only one.
> > >
> > > As for the required work to install and test Mercury it should be
> > > limited to the following for you:
> > >
> > > - Download and install (enable "SMTP relay" and SMTP server")
> > > - Enter the server name, user and password of your ordinary SMTP host
> > > into the SMTP relay configuration
> > > - Create one local Mercury user
> > > - Configure Pixory to use the Mercury server (i.e. 127.0.0.1 if you
> > > run Pixory on the same machine), local user, local user password
> > >
> > > That's it. Just to test that Mercury works as intended you can
> > > temporarily set your normal mail clent to use the Mercury SMTP server
> > > for outgoing mail. Send a test mail to yourself, it should be
> > > delivered by Mercury to your ordinary SMTP server, and then you
> > > should be able to fetch it with your mail clent.
> > >
> > > When you see that it works you can also enable all logging
> > > functionality for the SMTP server and the SMTP relay client in
> > > Mercury. Then send an invitation and see what happens. Test to
> > > toggle the "POP
> > > before send" in the SMTP relay client and see if it makes any
> > > difference.
> > >
> > > Mercury is free, but you will have to pay for manuals. However, the
> > > on-line help in the program is extensive, and you should be able to
> > > find any answers you need there for specific settings etc. Note that
> > > Mercury is running in "poll periods", so messages will not be
> > > delivered immediately. I do not remember the default poll period
> > > settings, but you can set them to whatever you like.
> > >
> > > As for the "more trouble than it is worth" I have a clear memory of
> > > an extensive period of communication between you and Joe, where
> > > Joe made extra releases with more debugging info solely to help you
> > > find your problem. Considering that no one else is having these
> > > problems I think that Joe has really stretched himself to help you
> > > out, and if you intend to continue discussing your problem in this
> > > forum I think it is only fair that you take all reasonable effort
> > > to find out what is happening. After all, it is only you who has the
> > > problem, so no one else (including Joe) can really help you with the
> > > actual debugging...
> > >
> > > As for the "how to fix your own invitation link" question you should
> > > do it exactly the same way as when you normally want to send a
> > > link to anyone. When you are on a page with the link you need, just
> > > right-click the link and "copy shortcut", then paste it into your
> > > mail. I use it all the time since I don't really like the look of the
> > > built-in invitations (sorry, Joe :-).
> > >
> > > The simplest way to do this is to click up any single picture inside
> > > the album you want to invite, and then right-click the "four square"
> > > symbol at the top of the Pixory window. Then copy and paste. The link
> > > should look something like:
> > >
> > > http://my.server.name:8081/pixory/pxapplication?service=external&c
> > ontext=AlbumIndex&sp=S40288082f4f2942800f4f4e4aec30007&
> > s
> > p=0
> >
> > /Gunnar
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "rojomn" <rojomn@c...> wrote:
> > > XP is not listed as a supported OS for Mercury.
> > > >
> > > > That is more trouble that it is wroth. If pixory cannot be fixed
> > I will
> > > > eventually find another way.
> > > > I am really looking for something that will also serve up videos
> > and other
> > > > files one day.
> > > >
> >
> > > > >
> > > > > Why not just test and install the free Mercury mail server from
> > > > > http://www.pmail.com and use its SMTP mail relay client just to
> > see
> > > > > what happens. It is quite easy to configure, and you only need
> > to
> > > > > enable the "SMTP server" and the "SMTP relay client" for this
> > test so
> > > > > you should get it up and running in no time.
> > > > >
> > > > > It has decent logging possibilities, so you can see if your
> > mail is
> > > > > actually sent from Pixory to the Mercury mail server. You can
> > also
> > > > > configure Mercury to use (or not to use) POP3 authentication
> > prior to
> > > > > relaying the mail to your ordinary SMTP server, and then see if
> > this
> > > > > makes any difference or not.
> > > > >
> > > > > /Gunnar
> > > > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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