Re: Necromail

Hola!  (just got back from Guatemala where I was forced to learn a  
little Spanish)

Thanks for the reminder of why CoreData won't allow me to put my  
database application online.  That's the reason I'm stuck.  There's  
not much point rewriting the desktop application from NEXTSTEP unless  
I can share it.

Regarding the death of the excellent combination of ObjC and EOF, I  
believe we see a victim of the buzz word.  Everyone wanted Java on  
their web server, so developing in ObjC seemed like a non-feature.   
First, a bridge was added to enable Java, then the ObjC side was  
ignored.  By the time the product made the full transition to Java -  
purely to meet the buzz-word requirements - it was less of a product  
than it started.

Personally, I don't think the Bridge alone would be enough.  Not if  
the core of WO and EOF were continued as Java objects.  I would  
really like to see a Cocoa+ObjC framework which has the full  
capabilities of EOF and WO.

Brian Willoughby
Sound Consulting


On Feb 16, 2009, at 07:56, Ricardo 'Dino' Strausz wrote:

Hola tod@s!

CoreData does not have "adaptors" to manage relational databases;  
therefore, it is not sufficient to build a Client/Server  
application... I also have old NextStep apps running with EOF as  
backbone... I first port some of theme to use the so called Java  
Bridge within Cocoa (see http://homepage.mac.com/strausz/baco/ 
Business_Applied_C_Objects.html ), but in Leopard such a tool had  
disappear... I am not sure what I will do now (take a look at http:// 
strausz.blogspot.com if you are interested in this nightmare).


Objective-C EOF was simply the best tool to use... unfortunately it  
is gone...
Now, I am trying to install GDL2 (an open version of it) but so far  
it had been very frustrating...
Another open version of it is AJRDatabase which can be found at  
http://sourceforge.net/projects/ajrdatabase/

I really do not understand why Apple quits on the development of such  
a nice tool... it was enough to open the code of the Java Bridge and  
let us fix its bugs to port it to Leopard...

sad history...