Re: Eaten by the Tiger? Open Source WO is coming...

Alex may have switched to NSDictionary when he recently implemented 
snapshot timestamping.

If you go to implement an adaptor for FrontBase I'd start with the 
PostgreSQL adaptor.  It has locking support (optimistic and 
pessimistic) and I don't think the others do yet.

I agree it is sad that there was so much duplicate work done.  Alex 
wasn't aware that GDL2 existed when he started.  I was sorry to hear 
that Nat is doing yet another implementation, as opposed to working 
with AJRDatabase.  I know he looked at it so he must have his reasons.

-Mont

On Aug 23, 2005, at 7:48 PM, Pierce T. Wetter III wrote:

>
> On Aug 23, 2005, at 5:41 PM, Mont Rothstein wrote:
>
>> A couple of quick comments on AJRDatabse.
>>
>> It is moving forward, just not terribly quickly.  If you subscribe to 
>> the
>> Developers forum for the Source Forge project I post there every time 
>> I
>> commit code.
>>
>> On completeness, we have a lot, but I don't have a hard number as to 
>> what %.
>> Alex recently added snapshot time stamping and I'll soon commit peer 
>> editing
>> context support (once I get them tested).  For me I use it in 
>> production and
>> add to it as needed.  No one on the project currently is committing 
>> serious
>> time for the sake of the project it self.
>>
>> I don't think either Alex or I have a problem with improving on 
>> shortcomings
>> in EOF, but there are a couple of challenges.  First is as Helge 
>> pointed
>> out, getting to a base line. Second, is the problem of documentation. 
>>  As
>> long as we stick to published EOF APIs then we get docs for free.  As 
>> soon
>> as we deviate than we have to maintain our own docs.
>
>   Hmmm... That's true, though just working better then EOF works...
>
>  For instance, since shared editing context were broken in 4.5, just 
> having a working implementation means you improve on EOF.
>
>
>>
>> Specifically on Pierce's NSSet suggestion, if it can be done without
>> affecting the public API, then it sounds like a great idea.  Any 
>> interest in
>> doing the work Pierce :-)
>
>   Yeah, first I have to write a FrontBase adaptor for it.
>
>   Though perhaps I was looking at an old version? It's using 
> Dictionaries in the latest code now when I went to see how much of a 
> change it would be.
>
>>
>> If you have specific questions about what AJRDatabase can/can't do I 
>> can try
>> to answer them.
>>
>> [OT] Pierce, does Marketocracy use vvi's graph server?  I thought 
>> they used
>> that site as an example when I first bought their tool.
>
>   Yep, just did about 3 new graphs for it last week in fact.
>>
>> Does whomever owns this thread want to move it to a mailing list and 
>> tell us
>> all where :-)
>
>   It's kind of on webobjects-talk right now, because I was subtly 
> recruiting developers for either SOPE or AJR...
>
>  Pierce
>