RE: Open source WO - offer

Sure, and where is the open source operating system that has the power and
elegance of MacOS X?  Or the open source database that has the performance
and feature set of Oracle?  The differences, of course, being that:

1) Apple and Oracle each invests heavily in developing and marketing those
products, whereas it's been years since anything other than the occasionaly
bug fix was added to WebObjects.

2) Despite increasing competition from Linux, MySQL, Postgres, etc. there is
still a big market for closed source operating systems and databases.  This
is increasingly not the case web development application tools.  The
momementum is towards open source solutions like some combination of Spring,
Tapestry, JSF, Hibernate, Cayenne, Tomcat, JBoss, etc.

WebLogic and WebSphere are still out there, but a) both IBM and BEA offer a
whole other set of software and services on top of what WebObjects provides
out of the box and b) Apple can't compete with IBM and BEA in selling into
the market that buys those products.  Granted, I'd rather develop with
WebObjects than WebSphere or WebLogic any day of the week, but that market
generally seems to feel differently.  

So the question isn't: should WebObjects be a proprietary solution that has
a resonable level of investment in its marketing and development or should
it be open source?  The question is: should WebObjects be open source or
should it effectively be dead?

Bruce

-----Original Message-----
From: Georg Tuparev [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 4:09 AM
To: Bruce Fancher
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Open source WO - offer

Bruce,

Let me put your question in a different way. Where is the open source
equivalent of EOF with the same elegance etc?

g

On Sep 3, 2006, at 5:05 AM, Bruce Fancher wrote:

> Can you give us any examples of an open source project where this has
> happened?  I don't mean a crap open source project, there are  
> plenty of
> those, I mean a good piece of software that was ruined by the  
> "unwashed
> masses fiddling with it."  Just because a project is open source  
> doesn't
> mean anyone can show up and make changes to the main source tree, or
> appropriate the name of the project.

Georg Tuparev
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