Re: Archetypes needs Plone

Andreas Jung <[email protected]> Wed, 05 Jul 2006 21:08:30 +0200
Newsgroups gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.archetypes.devel
Message-ID <6462B6D2C030EFB120491C93@[192.168.0.28]>

--On 5. Juli 2006 11:55:15 -0700 yary <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Please, please help future application developers by making clear that
> Archetypes requires Plone- which it does, if it's being maintained and
> tested only with Plone. There hasn't been interest in a CMF-agnostic
> Archetypes for two years, might as well make it official. Put it in
> the README, modify the project description where it says "Archetypes
> is a Zope Product which simplifies the creation of new content types
> under Zope 2 and the Content Management Framework (CMF)" and make it
> say "...Zope 2 and Plone."
>

It is a shame that we can't write clean software. There is almost no reason 
that AT has to depend on Plone. AT is *infrastructure*, AT is *middleware*. 
It must *not* depend  on something on the application level. Another 
example for bad design is that some (or all) skins of ATContentTypest 
are/were part of CMFPlone. Things that belong together should be belong 
together but I see almost no reason why things are getting mixed up instead 
of  clear separation (having the benefit that frameworks can be re-used in 
other contexts). This has nothing to do with that those frameworks belong 
to the Plone core..it's basically a cheap question of software design and 
architecture.

-aj

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