Re: zope 3 schema's and the rest of us

On Thu, 2006-07-13 at 14:57 -0230, Rocky Burt wrote:
> On Thu, 2006-13-07 at 19:20 +0200, Roché Compaan wrote:
> > The fact that UI definition is so tightly coupled with AT Schema
> > definition is bad design in my opinion (even though it may be convenient
> > at times). 
> 
> +1 here.  Separation of concerns is a good thing and has been proven as
> such over and over again.
> 
> > I don't necessarily want views generated from AT schema's. What I would
> > like, is that I get the same amount of boilerplate views generated from
> > a z3 schema as with the current AT. I'll do the rest an convert the AT
> > schema to a z3 schema. That and references would be bliss ;-)
> 
> Well, it seems that everyone has ideas on what would make their life
> easier in this new AT/zope3 hybrid schema world.  Probably would be good
> to compile a list at some point.  But as for your comment specifically,
> zope.formlib should already do what you're talking about.  It generates
> full pages based on z3 schema's.  Or are you referring to the fact that
> you want the same number of views auto-generated as AT currently does?
> (base_view, base_edit, etc)

It's been to long since I last checked out z3 so I don't know exactly
how much UI it can generate for me. In very simple terms I would like to
specify a schema and have the framework do as much for me as possible
without making it difficult to customise it afterwards. In less
idealistic terms, if I define a schema and the framework generates a
view and edit form for me, my job as developer is made a lot easier.
Both AT and z3 already do this, z3 just has nicer design.

In essence what I am saying is, rather than trying to "adapt" AT to z3 I
would rather port what works well in AT to z3 and then drop AT. I would,
very simply:

1. Port missing fields
2. Port missing widgets
3. Rewrite content types 

It's only 3 steps, it should work ;-)

-- 
Roché Compaan
Upfront Systems                   http://www.upfrontsystems.co.za



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