Re: plone multilingual

There are some inconvenients with that aproach:

* How are you going to show on navigation the elements from other languages
?

You have /fr/obj1 translated to /de/obj1 and it's not translated on en, you
want to see the obj1 on /en/ navigation. Maybe a Navigation strategy would
help on show this information. What object would be on /en/ ? the fr or the
de ?

The catalog patch is not the solution, I think that catalog patch should be
removed (and I removed it from lrf-type branch), so I would avoid using it.

* getLanguage method is used along all the code and adding a adding a
fieldIndex will add complexity on different parts. It may lead to a
problem, as really the object will be only on one language and you would
need to know which is the real language and which are fallbacks. With the
untranslatedLanguages vocabulary on pam/browser you can know which
languages aren't translated for a object, with a new field index with that
information we would be able to know which objects should be seen without
changing the language index.

R


2013/8/6 robert rottermann <[email protected]>

>  Hi there
> yesterday we where discussing how to support partially translated la
> nguages.
> This is NOT language neutral content.
>
> Use case:
> we have three languages de, fr, en
> now all content is created de and translated to fr.
> so no untranslated content exists.
> Some of the content is also translated to English.
>
> As things stand now, English will only see a very selected few elements
> (the translated ones) and has no way to know that there is also other
> content.
>
> So we came up with the idea that the language index should not be using a
> text index but a fieldindex, so a document could "be" in more that one
> language.
>
> The question now is:
> What problems would that provoke?
>
> thanks for your input.
>
> robert
>
>
>
> On 08/05/2013 08:45 AM, Ramon Navarro Bosch wrote:
>
> Hey,
>
>  There is already a implementation on github (lrf-type) branch on pam/pm
> that implements in a simpler way a neutral language solution. Neutral
> content is stored on the root and on each language root folder their are
> mapped using the traversal methods. The problem was on catalog as they were
> using the same UUID , so we created on this cases a UUID-lang code for
> cataloging.
>
>  R
>
>
> 2013/8/5 Dylan Jay <djay-n0pU0XVUApFWk0Htik3J/[email protected]>
>
>> On 05/08/2013, at 3:15 PM, robert rottermann <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > today the zurich sprint starts and I intend to work with
>> plone.multilingual
>> >
>> > is there anything that needs special love?
>>
>>  The issue of having a partially translated site maybe? As far as I've
>> been able to work out, this can't be done. ie. where it falls back to the
>> neutral language version like LinguaPlone does.
>> I suspect to make that work something similar to collective.alias would
>> have to be created?
>>
>>
>> >
>> > thanks
>> > robert
>> >
>> > On 06/10/2013 09:51 AM, robert rottermann wrote:
>> >> Hi there,
>> >>
>> >> I start to use plone.multilingual in earnest.
>> >> Now there is an upcomming sprint in Zurich, Switzerland in and I think
>> >> of proposing plone.multilingual there as a topic.
>> >>
>> >> No my questions:
>> >> What is the state of plone.multilingual?
>> >> I have the impression it is rather calm around it so I assume it is not
>> >> used too much.
>> >> Is this impression wrong? If yes, why is this so?
>> >>
>> >> Is there some other multilingual tool that should be included in a
>> >> multilingual sprint topic?
>> >>
>> >> thanks
>> >>
>> >> robert
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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