Re: VIDEO: Simplifying Plone with tiles and shortcodes

On 15/03/14 01:09, Martin Aspeli wrote:

> On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 11:13 pm, Dylan Jay
> <djay-n0pU0XVUApFWk0Htik3J/[email protected]="mailto:djay-n0pU0XVUApFWk0Htik3J/[email protected]">> wrote:

>     and the shortcode syntax. The intention was to use image
>     placeholders originally but we needed a way to identify and preview
>     the contents of a tile so I came up with this idea instead.
>     You are exactly right that it has the downside that a single char
>     missing can disable the tile. I considered that a lot. On balance I
>     think short codes are better because they allow power users to cut
>     and paste and make quick changes by hand.
>
> Agree. I am a bit worries that to very nontechnical users this may seem
> like "programming" and scary, but I don't know. It needs testing.

When watching the video I immediately thought: that's cool and powerful, 
but of course it's only a prototype and the shortcodes will be hidden 
behind some visual placeholder soon.

The whole raison d'etre for a WYSIWIG editor is to hide the markup 
language from the end user and replace it with a more intuitive editing 
interface. To now introduce a second layer of markup language in there 
(on top of the WYSIWIG-wrapped HTML) is inelegant.

I appreciate that a lot of work has been done to get to this point. 
Would there be many obstacles in factoring the shortcodes into a domain 
specific language that can be marked up in html? I mean something like e.g.
<div class="plone-app-contentlistingtile folder_summary"
      data-view_template="folder_summary"
      data-path=".::1">
   <div class="control">(change tile parameters)</div>
   <div class="preview"> ... </div>
</div>

That would open the route to fully integrate the editing of tiles 
seamlessly into the WYSIWIG editor itself.

I understand that if it would've been easy, it would've been done. But 
I'm asking specifically: a) what are the obstacles? and b) now that we 
have a working shortcodes implementation, doesn't that help and make the 
final leap more attainable?

:*CU#
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