Re: gettext, plural forms and plone

Hi,

I started this branch back in 2012 during the Plonekonf in Munich. We
are using it since 2 years now in a Zope3 application and it works
great. I asked some of the Zope maintainers to take a look at it,
especially for the C code, but I never got any response.

We are using lingua from Wichert to extract the message ids. I therefor
created a branch: https://github.com/tmassman/lingua. The pull request
was rejected, which I totally understand, because there was no progress
on zope.i18n and zope.i18nmessageid. I haven't been able to test the new
version of lingua which now supports plural forms as well.

I'd love to see that development on this feature is continued. Maybe a
first step would be to move the code to github
(https://github.com/zopefoundation) and create a plural branch there.

Thomas

Asko Soukka wrote:
> Google came up with almost recent work by Thomas Massmann:
> 
> https://code.launchpad.net/~thomas-massmann/zope.i18n/plural
> https://code.launchpad.net/~thomas-massmann/zope.i18nmessageid/plural
> 
> If those work, there's only Chameleon (and i18ndude) left to fix.
> 
> -Asko
> 
> Johannes Raggam wrote:
>> I come across the need to translate a text and use either plural or
>> singular form. I recognized, that we don't have a solution to this
>> problem in Plone. We can use conditions and use different message id's
>> in respect to the number of an item, but this is somehow foolish and not
>> the way to go. There are languages with more than one plural form. This
>> problem is described quite well in the GNU gettext docs:
>> http://www.gnu.org/software/libc/manual/html_node/Advanced-gettext-functions.html
>>
>> Apparently, in Zope and Plone, we use gettext, but not ngettext or any
>> of the other tools, which can handle plural forms. There is a ticket,
>> which also addresses this problem: https://dev.plone.org/ticket/2018
>> (it's 10 years old!).
>>
>> I won't fix it for this one problem I stumbled over, but just want to
>> re-raise the issue and ask, how other people are dealing with singular /
>> plural forms in Plone?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Johannes
>>
>>
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