Re: Time to close down the mailinglist

On 2015-10-19 15:22, Martin Opstad Reistadbakk wrote:
> 1) If anyone wants to run a nntp gateway they are very welcome to do so.
> There seem to be some efforts into writing one. Unfortunately the AI
> team does not have resources to support that.

What I found seems to be very experimental, so better wait with it.

> 2) Yes, that has been fixed. An upgrade have fixed the problem.

Good news!

> 3) 
> I would say that being better for newbies and new developers is a major
> feature. For core developers a significant amount of communication must

As said: perfect for newbies

> happen off list and mostly in github issues and pull requests anyway?

Which is true.

> Looking at my email history it looks like about one "topic"/thread per
> day with about 6 replies per topic (not necessarily from the same day).
> So it is not a very high traffic list. Some of the discussions there are
> very interesting and could benefit from more exposure outside the list,
> which they get on community.plone.org <http://community.plone.org>. 
> 
> We already have a Core Development category that gets about 10 new
> topics per month, so a lot of you already monitor and use both.

The current layout and navigation of community.plone.org has its
problems as I already wrote. No treeish overview is one problem, a
missing "compact" view-mode another.

> Embrace the future* of message board technology :-)
> 
>  (*by future I mean 2013 tech and newish ideas about how to run a
> message board)

Well... :-)

Jens

> On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 1:44 PM Jens W. Klein
> <jens-/[email protected]
> <mailto:jens-/[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
>     The current community.plone.org <http://community.plone.org> is
>     missing features to replace this list
>     and support the people behind this list (its consumers).
> 
>     1) Anyway I'd really prefer some NNTP backed system, as this list is -
>     using Gmane. NNTP has some major advantages and fits much better as an
>     inbox than some webpage.
> 
>     If theres an 2-way nntp proxy as it is for mailing lists, this would be
>     the way to go and support a more diverse world of developers.
> 
>     2) Is the bug/ broken feature of sending replies on emails fixed
>     meanwhile? To not be able to reply by email is (was?) a real problem
>     with community.plone.org <http://community.plone.org>. Any github
>     issue tracker does better here.
> 
>     3) community.plone.org <http://community.plone.org> usability/ UX is
>     far from optimal, 2 examples:
> 
>     3.1) may we have a alternative more compact theme/mode to read messages
>     on community.plone.org <http://community.plone.org>? If I have to
>     read through a browser I'd really
>     prefer more information at once on one screen page.
> 
>     3.2) also its not possible to get a comprehensive tree of topics with
>     its threads and replies. Any stone-age mailing list archive view does
>     better here.
> 
> 
>     Dont get me wrong, community.plone.org <http://community.plone.org>
>     is really nice, but its not well
>     done for power users. Its interface addresses newbies and here much is
>     done right. But if we start replacing a developers list and the scope is
>     broaden we need to make community.plone.org
>     <http://community.plone.org> support features for power
>     users.
> 
>     Jens
> 
>     On 2015-10-19 10:21, Martin Opstad Reistadbakk wrote:
>     > Hi all,
>     >
>     > With community.plone.org <http://community.plone.org>
>     <http://community.plone.org> working as well as
>     > it does, it is probably time to close down this mailing list.
>     >
>     > Core-developer category on community.plone.org
>     <http://community.plone.org>
>     > <http://community.plone.org>:
>     https://community.plone.org/c/core-development
>     >
>     > Setting up discourse to almost work like a mailing
>     > list:
>     https://community.plone.org/t/faq-common-questions-about-using-this-forum/152
>     >
>     > Unless there is a overwhelming negative response from current core
>     > contributors we will close down this list by the end of the year.
>     >
>     > Thank you so much.
>     >
>     >
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