Re: Time to close down the mailinglist

To rephrase, my last post was a *sigh* yes lets close it, but dont
forget to improve community.plone.org

And yes, kudos to Martin and the AI team!

Jens

On 2015-10-19 15:28, Jens W. Klein wrote:
> On 2015-10-19 15:22, Martin Opstad Reistadbakk wrote:
>> 1) If anyone wants to run a nntp gateway they are very welcome to do so.
>> There seem to be some efforts into writing one. Unfortunately the AI
>> team does not have resources to support that.
> 
> What I found seems to be very experimental, so better wait with it.
> 
>> 2) Yes, that has been fixed. An upgrade have fixed the problem.
> 
> Good news!
> 
>> 3) 
>> I would say that being better for newbies and new developers is a major
>> feature. For core developers a significant amount of communication must
> 
> As said: perfect for newbies
> 
>> happen off list and mostly in github issues and pull requests anyway?
> 
> Which is true.
> 
>> Looking at my email history it looks like about one "topic"/thread per
>> day with about 6 replies per topic (not necessarily from the same day).
>> So it is not a very high traffic list. Some of the discussions there are
>> very interesting and could benefit from more exposure outside the list,
>> which they get on community.plone.org <http://community.plone.org>. 
>>
>> We already have a Core Development category that gets about 10 new
>> topics per month, so a lot of you already monitor and use both.
> 
> The current layout and navigation of community.plone.org has its
> problems as I already wrote. No treeish overview is one problem, a
> missing "compact" view-mode another.
> 
>> Embrace the future* of message board technology :-)
>>
>>  (*by future I mean 2013 tech and newish ideas about how to run a
>> message board)
> 
> Well... :-)
> 
> Jens
> 
>> On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 1:44 PM Jens W. Klein
>> <jens-/[email protected]
>> <mailto:jens-/[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>     The current community.plone.org <http://community.plone.org> is
>>     missing features to replace this list
>>     and support the people behind this list (its consumers).
>>
>>     1) Anyway I'd really prefer some NNTP backed system, as this list is -
>>     using Gmane. NNTP has some major advantages and fits much better as an
>>     inbox than some webpage.
>>
>>     If theres an 2-way nntp proxy as it is for mailing lists, this would be
>>     the way to go and support a more diverse world of developers.
>>
>>     2) Is the bug/ broken feature of sending replies on emails fixed
>>     meanwhile? To not be able to reply by email is (was?) a real problem
>>     with community.plone.org <http://community.plone.org>. Any github
>>     issue tracker does better here.
>>
>>     3) community.plone.org <http://community.plone.org> usability/ UX is
>>     far from optimal, 2 examples:
>>
>>     3.1) may we have a alternative more compact theme/mode to read messages
>>     on community.plone.org <http://community.plone.org>? If I have to
>>     read through a browser I'd really
>>     prefer more information at once on one screen page.
>>
>>     3.2) also its not possible to get a comprehensive tree of topics with
>>     its threads and replies. Any stone-age mailing list archive view does
>>     better here.
>>
>>
>>     Dont get me wrong, community.plone.org <http://community.plone.org>
>>     is really nice, but its not well
>>     done for power users. Its interface addresses newbies and here much is
>>     done right. But if we start replacing a developers list and the scope is
>>     broaden we need to make community.plone.org
>>     <http://community.plone.org> support features for power
>>     users.
>>
>>     Jens
>>
>>     On 2015-10-19 10:21, Martin Opstad Reistadbakk wrote:
>>     > Hi all,
>>     >
>>     > With community.plone.org <http://community.plone.org>
>>     <http://community.plone.org> working as well as
>>     > it does, it is probably time to close down this mailing list.
>>     >
>>     > Core-developer category on community.plone.org
>>     <http://community.plone.org>
>>     > <http://community.plone.org>:
>>     https://community.plone.org/c/core-development
>>     >
>>     > Setting up discourse to almost work like a mailing
>>     > list:
>>     https://community.plone.org/t/faq-common-questions-about-using-this-forum/152
>>     >
>>     > Unless there is a overwhelming negative response from current core
>>     > contributors we will close down this list by the end of the year.
>>     >
>>     > Thank you so much.
>>     >
>>     >
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