Re: Time to close down the mailinglist
Leonardo Rochael Almeida <[email protected]> Mon, 19 Oct 2015 12:37:29 -0200
| Newsgroups | gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.devel |
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| Message-ID | <CAMxX_oPVnjaZ=S7TxagPXcqhuEvvSMaX7qcBXuv_-gUmZxc-CA@mail.gmail.com> |
I tried creating an account some time ago, but haven't received my activation e-mail yet (and yes, I did check my spam folder, and asked the activation e-mail to be re-sent). So I, for one, can't use the newfangled system yet :-) On 19 October 2015 at 11:32, Jens W. Klein <jens-/[email protected]> wrote: > To rephrase, my last post was a *sigh* yes lets close it, but dont > forget to improve community.plone.org > > And yes, kudos to Martin and the AI team! > > Jens > > On 2015-10-19 15:28, Jens W. Klein wrote: > > On 2015-10-19 15:22, Martin Opstad Reistadbakk wrote: > >> 1) If anyone wants to run a nntp gateway they are very welcome to do so. > >> There seem to be some efforts into writing one. Unfortunately the AI > >> team does not have resources to support that. > > > > What I found seems to be very experimental, so better wait with it. > > > >> 2) Yes, that has been fixed. An upgrade have fixed the problem. > > > > Good news! > > > >> 3) > >> I would say that being better for newbies and new developers is a major > >> feature. For core developers a significant amount of communication must > > > > As said: perfect for newbies > > > >> happen off list and mostly in github issues and pull requests anyway? > > > > Which is true. > > > >> Looking at my email history it looks like about one "topic"/thread per > >> day with about 6 replies per topic (not necessarily from the same day). > >> So it is not a very high traffic list. Some of the discussions there are > >> very interesting and could benefit from more exposure outside the list, > >> which they get on community.plone.org <http://community.plone.org>. > >> > >> We already have a Core Development category that gets about 10 new > >> topics per month, so a lot of you already monitor and use both. > > > > The current layout and navigation of community.plone.org has its > > problems as I already wrote. No treeish overview is one problem, a > > missing "compact" view-mode another. > > > >> Embrace the future* of message board technology :-) > >> > >> (*by future I mean 2013 tech and newish ideas about how to run a > >> message board) > > > > Well... :-) > > > > Jens > > > >> On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 1:44 PM Jens W. Klein > >> <jens-/[email protected] > >> <mailto:jens-/[email protected]>> wrote: > >> > >> The current community.plone.org <http://community.plone.org> is > >> missing features to replace this list > >> and support the people behind this list (its consumers). > >> > >> 1) Anyway I'd really prefer some NNTP backed system, as this list > is - > >> using Gmane. NNTP has some major advantages and fits much better as > an > >> inbox than some webpage. > >> > >> If theres an 2-way nntp proxy as it is for mailing lists, this > would be > >> the way to go and support a more diverse world of developers. > >> > >> 2) Is the bug/ broken feature of sending replies on emails fixed > >> meanwhile? To not be able to reply by email is (was?) a real problem > >> with community.plone.org <http://community.plone.org>. Any github > >> issue tracker does better here. > >> > >> 3) community.plone.org <http://community.plone.org> usability/ UX > is > >> far from optimal, 2 examples: > >> > >> 3.1) may we have a alternative more compact theme/mode to read > messages > >> on community.plone.org <http://community.plone.org>? If I have to > >> read through a browser I'd really > >> prefer more information at once on one screen page. > >> > >> 3.2) also its not possible to get a comprehensive tree of topics > with > >> its threads and replies. Any stone-age mailing list archive view > does > >> better here. > >> > >> > >> Dont get me wrong, community.plone.org <http://community.plone.org> > >> is really nice, but its not well > >> done for power users. Its interface addresses newbies and here much > is > >> done right. But if we start replacing a developers list and the > scope is > >> broaden we need to make community.plone.org > >> <http://community.plone.org> support features for power > >> users. > >> > >> Jens > >> > >> On 2015-10-19 10:21, Martin Opstad Reistadbakk wrote: > >> > Hi all, > >> > > >> > With community.plone.org <http://community.plone.org> > >> <http://community.plone.org> working as well as > >> > it does, it is probably time to close down this mailing list. > >> > > >> > Core-developer category on community.plone.org > >> <http://community.plone.org> > >> > <http://community.plone.org>: > >> https://community.plone.org/c/core-development > >> > > >> > Setting up discourse to almost work like a mailing > >> > list: > >> > https://community.plone.org/t/faq-common-questions-about-using-this-forum/152 > >> > > >> > Unless there is a overwhelming negative response from current core > >> > contributors we will close down this list by the end of the year. > >> > > >> > Thank you so much. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Plone-developers mailing list > >> > Plone-developers-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org > >> <mailto:Plone-developers-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org> > >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-developers > >> > > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Klein & Partner KG, member of BlueDynamics Alliance > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Plone-developers mailing list > >> Plone-developers-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org > >> <mailto:Plone-developers-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org> > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-developers > >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Plone-developers mailing list > >> Plone-developers-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-developers > >> > > > > > > > -- > Klein & Partner KG, member of BlueDynamics Alliance > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Plone-developers mailing list > Plone-developers-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-developers > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Plone-developers mailing list Plone-developers-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-developers