Re: Time to close down the mailinglist

Leonardo Rochael Almeida <[email protected]> Mon, 19 Oct 2015 12:37:29 -0200
Newsgroups gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.devel
Message-ID <CAMxX_oPVnjaZ=S7TxagPXcqhuEvvSMaX7qcBXuv_-gUmZxc-CA@mail.gmail.com>
I tried creating an account some time ago, but haven't received my
activation e-mail yet (and yes, I did check my spam folder, and asked the
activation e-mail to be re-sent).

So I, for one, can't use the newfangled system yet :-)

On 19 October 2015 at 11:32, Jens W. Klein <jens-/[email protected]> wrote:

> To rephrase, my last post was a *sigh* yes lets close it, but dont
> forget to improve community.plone.org
>
> And yes, kudos to Martin and the AI team!
>
> Jens
>
> On 2015-10-19 15:28, Jens W. Klein wrote:
> > On 2015-10-19 15:22, Martin Opstad Reistadbakk wrote:
> >> 1) If anyone wants to run a nntp gateway they are very welcome to do so.
> >> There seem to be some efforts into writing one. Unfortunately the AI
> >> team does not have resources to support that.
> >
> > What I found seems to be very experimental, so better wait with it.
> >
> >> 2) Yes, that has been fixed. An upgrade have fixed the problem.
> >
> > Good news!
> >
> >> 3)
> >> I would say that being better for newbies and new developers is a major
> >> feature. For core developers a significant amount of communication must
> >
> > As said: perfect for newbies
> >
> >> happen off list and mostly in github issues and pull requests anyway?
> >
> > Which is true.
> >
> >> Looking at my email history it looks like about one "topic"/thread per
> >> day with about 6 replies per topic (not necessarily from the same day).
> >> So it is not a very high traffic list. Some of the discussions there are
> >> very interesting and could benefit from more exposure outside the list,
> >> which they get on community.plone.org <http://community.plone.org>.
> >>
> >> We already have a Core Development category that gets about 10 new
> >> topics per month, so a lot of you already monitor and use both.
> >
> > The current layout and navigation of community.plone.org has its
> > problems as I already wrote. No treeish overview is one problem, a
> > missing "compact" view-mode another.
> >
> >> Embrace the future* of message board technology :-)
> >>
> >>  (*by future I mean 2013 tech and newish ideas about how to run a
> >> message board)
> >
> > Well... :-)
> >
> > Jens
> >
> >> On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 1:44 PM Jens W. Klein
> >> <jens-/[email protected]
> >> <mailto:jens-/[email protected]>> wrote:
> >>
> >>     The current community.plone.org <http://community.plone.org> is
> >>     missing features to replace this list
> >>     and support the people behind this list (its consumers).
> >>
> >>     1) Anyway I'd really prefer some NNTP backed system, as this list
> is -
> >>     using Gmane. NNTP has some major advantages and fits much better as
> an
> >>     inbox than some webpage.
> >>
> >>     If theres an 2-way nntp proxy as it is for mailing lists, this
> would be
> >>     the way to go and support a more diverse world of developers.
> >>
> >>     2) Is the bug/ broken feature of sending replies on emails fixed
> >>     meanwhile? To not be able to reply by email is (was?) a real problem
> >>     with community.plone.org <http://community.plone.org>. Any github
> >>     issue tracker does better here.
> >>
> >>     3) community.plone.org <http://community.plone.org> usability/ UX
> is
> >>     far from optimal, 2 examples:
> >>
> >>     3.1) may we have a alternative more compact theme/mode to read
> messages
> >>     on community.plone.org <http://community.plone.org>? If I have to
> >>     read through a browser I'd really
> >>     prefer more information at once on one screen page.
> >>
> >>     3.2) also its not possible to get a comprehensive tree of topics
> with
> >>     its threads and replies. Any stone-age mailing list archive view
> does
> >>     better here.
> >>
> >>
> >>     Dont get me wrong, community.plone.org <http://community.plone.org>
> >>     is really nice, but its not well
> >>     done for power users. Its interface addresses newbies and here much
> is
> >>     done right. But if we start replacing a developers list and the
> scope is
> >>     broaden we need to make community.plone.org
> >>     <http://community.plone.org> support features for power
> >>     users.
> >>
> >>     Jens
> >>
> >>     On 2015-10-19 10:21, Martin Opstad Reistadbakk wrote:
> >>     > Hi all,
> >>     >
> >>     > With community.plone.org <http://community.plone.org>
> >>     <http://community.plone.org> working as well as
> >>     > it does, it is probably time to close down this mailing list.
> >>     >
> >>     > Core-developer category on community.plone.org
> >>     <http://community.plone.org>
> >>     > <http://community.plone.org>:
> >>     https://community.plone.org/c/core-development
> >>     >
> >>     > Setting up discourse to almost work like a mailing
> >>     > list:
> >>
> https://community.plone.org/t/faq-common-questions-about-using-this-forum/152
> >>     >
> >>     > Unless there is a overwhelming negative response from current core
> >>     > contributors we will close down this list by the end of the year.
> >>     >
> >>     > Thank you so much.
> >>     >
> >>     >
> >>     >
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> >>     Klein & Partner KG, member of BlueDynamics Alliance
> >>
> >>
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