Re: New installation instructions

Mikko Ohtamaa <mikko+plone-75aZqqp77KCaMPzRcYMCawC/[email protected]> Sat, 14 Apr 2012 13:41:24 +0300
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On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 13:26, Mikko Ohtamaa
<mikko+plone-75aZqqp77KCaMPzRcYMCawC/[email protected]>wrote:

>
>
> On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 04:11, John Schinnerer <john-/Gao9/[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Thank you, simple enough, and...done.
>> Is that it?
>> After *Propose file change* I get a page re sending a pull request. Don't
>> grok it...do I need to do that?
>>
>
>
Ok here are the reviewed mini instructions:

Edit this document

The source code of this file is hosted on GitHub. Everyone can update and
fix errors in this document with few clicks - no downloads needed.


   1. Go to XXX on GitHub.
   2. Press *Fork and edit this file* button.
   3. Edit file contents using GitHub's text editor in your web browserm
   4. Fill in the *Commit message* text box at the end of the page telling *
   why* you did the changes. Press *Propose file change* button next to it
   when done.
   5. On *Send a pull request* page you don't need to fill in text anymore.
   Just press *Send pull request* button.
   6. Your changes are now queued for review under project's Pull
requests<https://github.com/collective/collective.developermanual/pulls>tab
on Github.

 For basic information about updating this manual and Sphinx format please
see Writing and updating the
manual<http://collective-docs.readthedocs.org/en/latest/introduction/writing.html>guide.




> Yes, that must be done also. I'll clarify that in nstructions.
>
> Cheers, Mikko
> -Mikko
>
>
>>
>> thanks,
>> John S.
>>
>>
>> On 04/13/2012 11:46 AM, Mikko Ohtamaa wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 23:42, John Schinnerer <john-/Gao9/[email protected]
>>> <mailto:john-/Gao9/[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>
>>>    I am totally new to github...the apparently relevant button says
>>>    "Fork and Edit this file" - not sure if that is the correct thing to
>>>    do? Please advise how to make the edit without making a mess...
>>>
>>>
>>> Should go like this
>>>
>>>  1. Go to Writing and updating the documentation
>>>    <https://github.com/**collective/collective.**
>>> developermanual/edit/master/**source/introduction/writing.**rst<https://github.com/collective/collective.developermanual/edit/master/source/introduction/writing.rst>
>>> >
>>>    on GitHub.
>>>  2. Press *Fork and edit this file* button
>>>  3. Edit file contents using GitHub's text editor in your web browser
>>>  4. Press *Propose file change* at the bottom of the page
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    thanks,
>>>    John S.
>>>
>>>
>>>    On 04/12/2012 08:56 PM, Mikko Ohtamaa wrote:
>>>
>>>        Hi John,
>>>
>>>            Mention early on, with link, to see the Hosting Guide for
>>>        information
>>>            about production installations/deployments.
>>>
>>>
>>>        Good spot. Can you go ahead and fix it directly here?
>>>
>>>        https://github.com/collective/**__collective.developermanual/_**
>>> _blob/master/source/tutorials/**__installation.rst<https://github.com/collective/__collective.developermanual/__blob/master/source/tutorials/__installation.rst>
>>>
>>>        <https://github.com/**collective/collective.**
>>> developermanual/blob/master/**source/tutorials/installation.**rst<https://github.com/collective/collective.developermanual/blob/master/source/tutorials/installation.rst>
>>> >
>>>
>>>        -Mikko
>>>
>>>            For example where it now says:
>>>
>>>            ------------------------------**__----------
>>>
>>>            ...
>>>            Installing Plone using Unified UNIX Installer
>>>
>>>            Note
>>>            This is the recommended installation method
>>>
>>>            This recipe is good for
>>>                 Lightweight production sites
>>>                 Plone development and testing on Ubuntu / Debian
>>>            ...
>>>            ------------------------------**__------------
>>>
>>>
>>>            ...add some following text like:
>>>
>>>        "For information on using this installation with production
>>>            environments/deployments, see the [hosting guide]."
>>>
>>>            There is a line that hints at that at the very end of the
>>>        unified
>>>            installer section, and I think it could be clearer and sooner.
>>>
>>>            thanks,
>>>            John S.
>>>
>>>            On 04/10/2012 05:04 AM, Mikko Ohtamaa wrote:
>>>         > Hi,
>>>         >
>>>         > I try to modernize / centralize existing Plone installation
>>>            instructions.
>>>         >
>>>         > Please take a look on:
>>>         >
>>>         >
>>>        http://collective-docs.__readt**hedocs.org/en/latest/__**
>>> tutorials/installation.html<http://readthedocs.org/en/latest/__tutorials/installation.html>
>>>
>>>        <http://collective-docs.**readthedocs.org/en/latest/**
>>> tutorials/installation.html<http://collective-docs.readthedocs.org/en/latest/tutorials/installation.html>
>>> >
>>>         >
>>>         > ...and then take a stab on the document or me.
>>>         >
>>>         > Cheers,
>>>         > Mikko
>>>         >
>>>         > -----
>>>         >
>>>         > Follow me in Twitter
>>>         >
>>>         >
>>>         >
>>>         > Read my blog
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>>>            --
>>>            Mikko Ohtamaa
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>>>        http://twitter.com/moo9000
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    --
>>>    John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design
>>>    ------------------------------**__--------------
>>>
>>>    - Eco-Living -
>>>    Whole Systems Design Services
>>>    People - Place - Learning - Integration
>>>    john-/Gao9/[email protected] <mailto:john-/Gao9/[email protected]>
>>>    http://eco-living.net
>>>
>>>    --
>>>    Mikko Ohtamaa
>>>    http://opensourcehacker.com
>>>    http://twitter.com/moo9000
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> --
>> John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design
>> ------------------------------**--------------
>> - Eco-Living -
>> Whole Systems Design Services
>> People - Place - Learning - Integration
>> john-/Gao9/[email protected]
>> http://eco-living.net
>>
>> --
>> Mikko Ohtamaa
>> <http://eco-living.net>http://opensourcehacker.com
>> http://twitter.com/moo9000
>>
>> --
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>> <http://twitter.com/moo9000>http://opensourcehacker.com
>> http://twitter.com/moo9000
>>
>>
>>
>>

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<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 13:26, Mikko Ohtamaa=
 <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mikko%2Bplone-75aZqqp77KCaMPzRcYMCawC/[email protected]">m=
ikko+plone-75aZqqp77KCaMPzRcYMCawC/[email protected]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"=
gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-=
left:1ex">
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div class=3D"im">On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 a=
t 04:11, John Schinnerer <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:john@eco-l=
iving.net" target=3D"_blank">john-/Gao9/[email protected]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><=
blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px=
 #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

Thank you, simple enough, and...done.<br>
Is that it?<br>
After *Propose file change* I get a page re sending a pull request. Don&#39=
;t grok it...do I need to do that?<br></blockquote></div><div><br></div></d=
iv></blockquote><div><br>Ok here are the reviewed mini instructions:<br>
<br><div id=3D"editor-trap">
      <h3>Edit this document</h3>

      <p>
        The source code of this file is hosted on GitHub. Everyone can=20
        update and fix errors in this document with few clicks -=20
        no downloads needed.
      </p><p>

      </p><ol><li>
          Go to XXX on GitHub.
      </li><li>
          Press <b>Fork and edit this file</b> button.
      </li><li>
          Edit file contents using GitHub&#39;s text editor in your web bro=
wserm
      </li><li>
        Fill in the <b>Commit message</b> text box at the end of the page t=
elling <i>why</i>
        you did the changes. Press <b>Propose file change</b> button next t=
o it when done.=20
      </li><li>
        On <i>Send a pull request</i> page you don&#39;t need to fill in te=
xt anymore. Just
        press <b>Send pull request</b> button.
      </li><li>
        Your changes are now queued for review under project&#39;s <a href=
=3D"https://github.com/collective/collective.developermanual/pulls">Pull re=
quests</a> tab on Github.
      </li></ol>

      <p>
        For basic information about updating this manual=20
        and Sphinx format please see <a href=3D"http://collective-docs.read=
thedocs.org/en/latest/introduction/writing.html">
        Writing and updating the manual</a> guide.
      </p>
     =20
  </div><br><br>=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:=
0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">=
<div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div>Yes, that must be done also. I&#39;ll clari=
fy that in nstructions. <br>
<br>Cheers, Mikko<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
-Mikko<br>=A0</font></span></div><div><div class=3D"h5"><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rg=
b(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<br>
thanks,<br>
John S.<div><br>
<br>
On 04/13/2012 11:46 AM, Mikko Ohtamaa wrote:<br>
</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-l=
eft:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>
<br>
<br>
On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 23:42, John Schinnerer &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:john@e=
co-living.net" target=3D"_blank">john-/Gao9/[email protected]</a><br></div><div>
&lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:john-/Gao9/[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">john@ec=
o-living.net</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
 =A0 =A0I am totally new to github...the apparently relevant button says<br=
>
 =A0 =A0&quot;Fork and Edit this file&quot; - not sure if that is the corre=
ct thing to<br>
 =A0 =A0do? Please advise how to make the edit without making a mess...<br>
<br>
<br>
Should go like this<br>
<br></div>
=A01. Go to Writing and updating the documentation<br>
 =A0 =A0&lt;<a href=3D"https://github.com/collective/collective.developerma=
nual/edit/master/source/introduction/writing.rst" target=3D"_blank">https:/=
/github.com/<u></u>collective/collective.<u></u>developermanual/edit/master=
/<u></u>source/introduction/writing.<u></u>rst</a>&gt;<br>


 =A0 =A0on GitHub.<br>
=A02. Press *Fork and edit this file* button<br>
=A03. Edit file contents using GitHub&#39;s text editor in your web browser=
<br>
=A04. Press *Propose file change* at the bottom of the page<div><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
 =A0 =A0thanks,<br>
 =A0 =A0John S.<br>
<br>
<br>
 =A0 =A0On 04/12/2012 08:56 PM, Mikko Ohtamaa wrote:<br>
<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Hi John,<br>
<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Mention early on, with link, to see the Hosting Gui=
de for<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0information<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0about production installations/deployments.<br>
<br>
<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Good spot. Can you go ahead and fix it directly here?<br>
<br></div>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0<a href=3D"https://github.com/collective/__collective.devel=
opermanual/__blob/master/source/tutorials/__installation.rst" target=3D"_bl=
ank">https://github.com/collective/<u></u>__collective.developermanual/_<u>=
</u>_blob/master/source/tutorials/<u></u>__installation.rst</a><div>

<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0&lt;<a href=3D"https://github.com/collective/collective.dev=
elopermanual/blob/master/source/tutorials/installation.rst" target=3D"_blan=
k">https://github.com/<u></u>collective/collective.<u></u>developermanual/b=
lob/master/<u></u>source/tutorials/installation.<u></u>rst</a>&gt;<br>


<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0-Mikko<br>
<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0For example where it now says:<br>
<br></div>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0------------------------------<u></u>__----------<d=
iv><br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0...<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Installing Plone using Unified UNIX Installer<br>
<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Note<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0This is the recommended installation method<br>
<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0This recipe is good for<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Lightweight production sites<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Plone development and testing on Ubuntu / =
Debian<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0...<br></div>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0------------------------------<u></u>__------------=
<div><br>
<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0...add some following text like:<br>
<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0&quot;For information on using this installation with produ=
ction<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0environments/deployments, see the [hosting guide].&=
quot;<br>
<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0There is a line that hints at that at the very end =
of the<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0unified<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0installer section, and I think it could be clearer =
and sooner.<br>
<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0thanks,<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0John S.<br>
<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0On 04/10/2012 05:04 AM, Mikko Ohtamaa wrote:<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 &gt; Hi,<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 &gt;<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 &gt; I try to modernize / centralize existing Plone instal=
lation<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0instructions.<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 &gt;<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 &gt; Please take a look on:<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 &gt;<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 &gt;<br></div>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0<a href=3D"http://collective-docs." target=3D"_blank">http:=
//collective-docs.</a>__<a href=3D"http://readthedocs.org/en/latest/__tutor=
ials/installation.html" target=3D"_blank">readt<u></u>hedocs.org/en/latest/=
__<u></u>tutorials/installation.html</a><div>

<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0&lt;<a href=3D"http://collective-docs.readthedocs.org/en/la=
test/tutorials/installation.html" target=3D"_blank">http://collective-docs.=
<u></u>readthedocs.org/en/latest/<u></u>tutorials/installation.html</a>&gt;=
<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 &gt;<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 &gt; ...and then take a stab on the document or me.<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 &gt;<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 &gt; Cheers,<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 &gt; Mikko<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 &gt;<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 &gt; -----<br>
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 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 &gt; Read my blog<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 &gt;<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 &gt;<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 &gt;<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 &gt;<br>
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