Plone in Connet
Jukka K Purma <purma-/[email protected]> Fri, 25 Jul 2003 23:09:33 +0300 (EET DST)
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Hello, This is my first post here, and this time I don't have any specific request, I'm just thinking aloud. I'm planning a major overhaul for our own learning environment and Plone plays an essential role in it. Situation: In Finland we have this Finnish Virtual University, which has our every university participating. I'm in Connet, project for teaching cognitive science and technology, over the country, through the net. We have 8 universities providing courses, with one teacher/teaching assistant/designer-hybrid in every university, and active 3-30 students in same eight. Mostly they're not very technically minded: I'm the one who keeps up our environment and understands Zope enough to dare to go beyond the link that says manage. In year we have about 12 courses. Some of them suck. For now, we have this thing called 'Connet Sandbox'. It started, when we collectively got bored with WebCT and people I know had just put out FLE3, learning environment for Zope. This was my first touch with zope, last summer. After having FLE3 running, I put zwiki in it and together it was _very_ powerful & liberating experience. (After WebCT, nice to actually go and change how things work.) I've put some more pieces into it; course folder with registeration procedures, grading tool that uses MySQL, irc-server with java-clients opening when user logs in. (Can be switched off, if sounds painful, but otherwise our very-non-computing people won't dare to experiment with it.) And front-page with blog-like news and list of all new FLE-messages and zwiki-pages. Our courses have mostly their content in wiki-pages, people are encouraged to use it and fill it with their personal stuff and so.. Problem is, that with all my little modifications it is very hard to document this place, and while adding features is easy and fun, making them foolproof is another and kind of boring challenge. Now it's time for Plone to take those tasks. I've made a rough i8n-translation (our site is, and will be, in Finnish, which somewhat prevents giving things back to community, unless I have a lots of free time to clean up our modifications and translate them back into english. Finnish plone translation will come through, I'll post about it soon into that other list..) -Since we already have so much stuff in wiki, it should move along and stay in one piece. Our users have finally learned to use WikiNames, so let all wiki-pages stay in one place, so they don't have to confuse themselves with inter-wiki-linking into their folders. -This weeks CMFWeblog.. hmm.. out the box there is a nice thing about it; every entry is made in the same page, portal_weblog, and then distributed into user's home folder or somewhere else. Now, if I add one property, 'course', with options according to courses user has registered to and 'personal/none'... -And same property to every zwiki-page.. -And every other type as well -Then we create these courses, folder-subclasses, with metadata like opening date, description, credits, etc.. compatible with course-info-form in Virtual University. -Every course-folder-object has whatever content it needs, but things get swell with Topics. I think we can have a blog-like version of Topic, that collects everything that everyone has recently done (course-property matching) in one long page. Having comments on for Weblog entries, we have nice course blogs, with all users contributions(except comments) tidely in their own folder. This has been a problem with our previous Sandbox, people's contributions tend to get lost. -Now we have our basic actions in two pages. portal_weblog (available also through blogger-API :) ) is where you do most of your writing, and course's Topic-collection is where you check latest action and comment others. One big button to portal_weblog and hint to bookmark (in plone bookmarks, so we have it in left-side-box) topic-blogs. -And let's add user portraits when available into weblog-entries to make them warmer. -Of course, there are still documents, wiki-pages and all plone-powers for those who need, but basic course activity seems now very simple: Read & write here. -RSS feeds, I don't know lot about them yet, but I have a hunch that with those Topic-course-blogs they can do local magic. So, this is what we're doing here. It's about education and plone. I'll do this, let's see how it works, and then we can talk about it's relation into bigger scheme of things. I know I'm passing by all kinds of interesting stuff about educational objects, etc, but I just got to have this working by fall. Other thing, after that is to add FLE3:ish properties to discussion tool; knowledge types and stuff. I'm thinking we may have to let FLE3 to go, it's webtop and Plone's user folders would make a confusing combination. For this I propably have to write a script to transform existing objects in FLE3's webtop to plone-objects. I know there are others with Plone and FLE3, they might be pondering same things? Jukka Purma purma-/[email protected] Project planner, Connet ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01