Re: [Framework-Team] Roadmap and Release schedule for Plone 5.2 and 6.0
Franco Pellegrini <[email protected]> Fri, 1 Mar 2019 08:58:19 -0300
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--===============1052151349149027880== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000032b23005830720f5" --00000000000032b23005830720f5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I agree with Phillip 100% and also agree with Some of Gil's points... The main issue I think is people not testing... There's something psychological or something that prevent people from using beta or even rc versions... I am +1 on releasing with advice that migrations might not work 100% yet Kind regards, Franco PS: I requested permission to see the doc yesterday, but didn't get it yet (just in case you missed the notification) El vie., 1 mar. 2019 07:32, Timo Stollenwerk <tisto-z4DKO/[email protected]> escribi=C3= =B3: > Please ask for permissions via Google Docs and we will grant it to you. > > On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 10:39 AM Gil Forcada Codinachs <[email protected]= m> > wrote: > >> Maybe is just me, but I don't have access to that document :-P >> >> Missatge de Philip Bauer <[email protected]> del dia dj., 28 de febr. >> 2019 a les 22:44: >> >>> Here is the google doc with the proposal: >>> >>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u_brtRx3lmw6-RORncZDJ59p_1bHaQEUENF= b91K5l24/edit?usp=3Dsharing >>> >>> Discuss, Edit, Extend :-) >>> >>> Philip >>> >>> -- >>> Starzel.de >>> Philip Bauer >>> Dilsberger Stra=C3=9Fe 9 >>> 81245 M=C3=BCnchen >>> Tel: 089 - 189 29 533 >>> [email protected] >>> www.starzel.de >>> >>> > Am 27.02.2019 um 12:38 schrieb Philip Bauer <[email protected]>: >>> > >>> > Dear Teams! >>> > >>> > At the Plonetagung in Munich Timo, Jens and me discussed the Roadmap >>> and Release schedule for Plone 5.2 and 6.0. >>> > >>> > Here is what we agreed we should implement and communicate. >>> > >>> > >>> > Plone 5.2 >>> > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >>> > >>> > Mayor Features: >>> > - Support for Python 3 >>> > - plone.restapi >>> > - WSGI >>> > - Zope 4 >>> > - New navigation with dropdown >>> > - Link-Management UI >>> > - New Login >>> > - Zope 4 >>> > >>> > Release-Schedule: >>> > - rc1 next week >>> > - final: 30.03.2019 >>> > >>> > >>> > Plone 6.0 >>> > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >>> > >>> > Mayor Features: >>> > - Volto: A new Frontend >>> > - Folderish Contenttypes >>> > - Instance-Behaviors >>> > - Dexterity Site-Root >>> > - Drop Support for Python 2.7 >>> > >>> > Release-Schedule: >>> > - alpha1: October 2019 >>> > - beta1: December 2019 >>> > - final: 30.03.2020 >>> > >>> > >>> > We think it would be beneficial to publicly communicate this timeline >>> and roadmap. >>> > Timo and me are working on a draft for a roadmap-document that could >>> be discussed. >>> > >>> > >>> > Greetings from Munich! >>> > Philip >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Starzel.de >>> > Philip Bauer >>> > Dilsberger Stra=C3=9Fe 9 >>> > 81245 M=C3=BCnchen >>> > Tel: 089 - 189 29 533 >>> > [email protected] >>> > www.starzel.de >>> > >>> >>> _______________________________________________ > Framework-Team mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/plone-framework-team > El vie., 1 mar. 2019 07:32, Timo Stollenwerk <tisto-z4DKO/[email protected]> escribi=C3= =B3: > Please ask for permissions via Google Docs and we will grant it to you. > > On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 10:39 AM Gil Forcada Codinachs <[email protected]= m> > wrote: > >> Maybe is just me, but I don't have access to that document :-P >> >> Missatge de Philip Bauer <[email protected]> del dia dj., 28 de febr. >> 2019 a les 22:44: >> >>> Here is the google doc with the proposal: >>> >>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u_brtRx3lmw6-RORncZDJ59p_1bHaQEUENF= b91K5l24/edit?usp=3Dsharing >>> >>> Discuss, Edit, Extend :-) >>> >>> Philip >>> >>> -- >>> Starzel.de >>> Philip Bauer >>> Dilsberger Stra=C3=9Fe 9 >>> 81245 M=C3=BCnchen >>> Tel: 089 - 189 29 533 >>> [email protected] >>> www.starzel.de >>> >>> > Am 27.02.2019 um 12:38 schrieb Philip Bauer <[email protected]>: >>> > >>> > Dear Teams! >>> > >>> > At the Plonetagung in Munich Timo, Jens and me discussed the Roadmap >>> and Release schedule for Plone 5.2 and 6.0. >>> > >>> > Here is what we agreed we should implement and communicate. >>> > >>> > >>> > Plone 5.2 >>> > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >>> > >>> > Mayor Features: >>> > - Support for Python 3 >>> > - plone.restapi >>> > - WSGI >>> > - Zope 4 >>> > - New navigation with dropdown >>> > - Link-Management UI >>> > - New Login >>> > - Zope 4 >>> > >>> > Release-Schedule: >>> > - rc1 next week >>> > - final: 30.03.2019 >>> > >>> > >>> > Plone 6.0 >>> > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >>> > >>> > Mayor Features: >>> > - Volto: A new Frontend >>> > - Folderish Contenttypes >>> > - Instance-Behaviors >>> > - Dexterity Site-Root >>> > - Drop Support for Python 2.7 >>> > >>> > Release-Schedule: >>> > - alpha1: October 2019 >>> > - beta1: December 2019 >>> > - final: 30.03.2020 >>> > >>> > >>> > We think it would be beneficial to publicly communicate this timeline >>> and roadmap. >>> > Timo and me are working on a draft for a roadmap-document that could >>> be discussed. >>> > >>> > >>> > Greetings from Munich! >>> > Philip >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Starzel.de >>> > Philip Bauer >>> > Dilsberger Stra=C3=9Fe 9 >>> > 81245 M=C3=BCnchen >>> > Tel: 089 - 189 29 533 >>> > [email protected] >>> > www.starzel.de >>> > >>> >>> _______________________________________________ > Framework-Team mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/plone-framework-team > --00000000000032b23005830720f5 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"auto">I agree with Phillip = 100% and also agree with Some of Gil's points...</div><div dir=3D"auto"= ><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">The main issue I think is people not testing..= . There's something psychological or something that prevent people from= using beta or even rc versions...</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div di= r=3D"auto">I am +1 on releasing with advice that migrations might not work = 100% yet</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Kind regards,</= div><div dir=3D"auto">Franco</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"a= uto">PS: I requested permission to see the doc yesterday, but didn't ge= t it yet (just in case you missed the notification)</div><div dir=3D"auto">= <br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_at= tr">El vie., 1 mar. 2019 07:32, Timo Stollenwerk <<a href=3D"mailto:tist= [email protected]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"= _blank">tisto-z4DKO/[email protected]</a>> escribi=C3=B3:<br></div><blockquote class= =3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd= ing-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Please ask for permissions via Google Docs a= nd we will grant it to you.</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D= "ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 10:39 AM Gil Forcada Codi= nachs <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferr= er noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]<= /a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0= px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><= div dir=3D"ltr">Maybe is just me, but I don't have access to that docum= ent :-P<br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"g= mail_attr">Missatge de Philip Bauer <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]"= rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_= blank">[email protected]</a>> del dia dj., 28 de febr. 2019 a les 22:44:<= br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8e= x;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Here is the goog= le doc with the proposal:=C2=A0 <br> <a href=3D"https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u_brtRx3lmw6-RORncZDJ59p_1bH= aQEUENFb91K5l24/edit?usp=3Dsharing" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer= noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://docs.google.co= m/document/d/1u_brtRx3lmw6-RORncZDJ59p_1bHaQEUENFb91K5l24/edit?usp=3Dsharin= g</a><br> <br> Discuss, Edit, Extend :-)<br> <br> Philip<br> <br> --<br> Starzel.de<br> Philip Bauer<br> Dilsberger Stra=C3=9Fe 9<br> 81245 M=C3=BCnchen<br> Tel: 089 - 189 29 533<br> <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer= noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a><br> <a href=3D"http://www.starzel.de" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer n= oreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">www.starzel.de</a><br> <br> > Am 27.02.2019 um 12:38 schrieb Philip Bauer <<a href=3D"mailto:baue= [email protected]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer= " target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>>:<br> > <br> > Dear Teams!<br> > <br> > At the Plonetagung in Munich Timo, Jens and me discussed the Roadmap a= nd Release schedule for Plone 5.2 and 6.0.<br> > <br> > Here is what we agreed we should implement and communicate. <br> > <br> > <br> > Plone 5.2<br> > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<br> > <br> > Mayor Features:<br> > - Support for Python 3 <br> > - plone.restapi<br> > - WSGI<br> > - Zope 4<br> > - New navigation with dropdown<br> > - Link-Management UI <br> > - New Login<br> > - Zope 4<br> > <br> > Release-Schedule:<br> > - rc1 next week<br> > - final: 30.03.2019<br> > <br> > <br> > Plone 6.0<br> > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<br> > <br> > Mayor Features:<br> > - Volto: A new Frontend <br> > - Folderish Contenttypes<br> > - Instance-Behaviors<br> > - Dexterity Site-Root<br> > - Drop Support for Python 2.7 <br> > <br> > Release-Schedule:<br> > - alpha1: October 2019<br> > - beta1: December 2019<br> > - final: 30.03.2020<br> > <br> > <br> > We think it would be beneficial to publicly communicate this timeline = and roadmap. <br> > Timo and me are working on a draft for a roadmap-document that could b= e discussed. <br> > <br> > <br> > Greetings from Munich!<br> > Philip<br> > <br> > --<br> > Starzel.de<br> > Philip Bauer<br> > Dilsberger Stra=C3=9Fe 9<br> > 81245 M=C3=BCnchen<br> > Tel: 089 - 189 29 533<br> > <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noref= errer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a><br> > <a href=3D"http://www.starzel.de" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer norefer= rer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">www.starzel.de</a><= br> > <br> <br> </blockquote></div> </blockquote></div> _______________________________________________<br> Framework-Team mailing list<br> <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" rel=3D"noreferrer norefer= rer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">Framework-Team@list= s.plone.org</a><br> <a href=3D"https://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/plone-framework-team" r= el=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" ta= rget=3D"_blank">https://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/plone-framework-te= am</a><br> </blockquote></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" cl= ass=3D"gmail_attr">El vie., 1 mar. 2019 07:32, Timo Stollenwerk <<a href= =3D"mailto:tisto-z4DKO/[email protected]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer norefer= rer" target=3D"_blank">tisto-z4DKO/[email protected]</a>> escribi=C3=B3:<br></div><blo= ckquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #c= cc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Please ask for permissions via = Google Docs and we will grant it to you.</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote= "><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 10:39 AM Gil= Forcada Codinachs <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" rel=3D"norefe= rrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">gil.gno= [email protected]</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl= e=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);paddin= g-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Maybe is just me, but I don't have access = to that document :-P<br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"lt= r" class=3D"gmail_attr">Missatge de Philip Bauer <<a href=3D"mailto:baue= [email protected]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer= " target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>> del dia dj., 28 de febr. 2019 = a les 22:44:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px= 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Her= e is the google doc with the proposal:=C2=A0 <br> <a href=3D"https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u_brtRx3lmw6-RORncZDJ59p_1bH= aQEUENFb91K5l24/edit?usp=3Dsharing" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer= noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://docs.google.co= m/document/d/1u_brtRx3lmw6-RORncZDJ59p_1bHaQEUENFb91K5l24/edit?usp=3Dsharin= g</a><br> <br> Discuss, Edit, Extend :-)<br> <br> Philip<br> <br> --<br> Starzel.de<br> Philip Bauer<br> Dilsberger Stra=C3=9Fe 9<br> 81245 M=C3=BCnchen<br> Tel: 089 - 189 29 533<br> <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer= noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a><br> <a href=3D"http://www.starzel.de" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer n= oreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">www.starzel.de</a><br> <br> > Am 27.02.2019 um 12:38 schrieb Philip Bauer <<a href=3D"mailto:baue= [email protected]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer= " target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>>:<br> > <br> > Dear Teams!<br> > <br> > At the Plonetagung in Munich Timo, Jens and me discussed the Roadmap a= nd Release schedule for Plone 5.2 and 6.0.<br> > <br> > Here is what we agreed we should implement and communicate. <br> > <br> > <br> > Plone 5.2<br> > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<br> > <br> > Mayor Features:<br> > - Support for Python 3 <br> > - plone.restapi<br> > - WSGI<br> > - Zope 4<br> > - New navigation with dropdown<br> > - Link-Management UI <br> > - New Login<br> > - Zope 4<br> > <br> > Release-Schedule:<br> > - rc1 next week<br> > - final: 30.03.2019<br> > <br> > <br> > Plone 6.0<br> > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<br> > <br> > Mayor Features:<br> > - Volto: A new Frontend <br> > - Folderish Contenttypes<br> > - Instance-Behaviors<br> > - Dexterity Site-Root<br> > - Drop Support for Python 2.7 <br> > <br> > Release-Schedule:<br> > - alpha1: October 2019<br> > - beta1: December 2019<br> > - final: 30.03.2020<br> > <br> > <br> > We think it would be beneficial to publicly communicate this timeline = and roadmap. <br> > Timo and me are working on a draft for a roadmap-document that could b= e discussed. <br> > <br> > <br> > Greetings from Munich!<br> > Philip<br> > <br> > --<br> > Starzel.de<br> > Philip Bauer<br> > Dilsberger Stra=C3=9Fe 9<br> > 81245 M=C3=BCnchen<br> > Tel: 089 - 189 29 533<br> > <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noref= errer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a><br> > <a href=3D"http://www.starzel.de" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer norefer= rer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">www.starzel.de</a><= br> > <br> <br> </blockquote></div> </blockquote></div> _______________________________________________<br> Framework-Team mailing list<br> <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" rel=3D"noreferrer norefer= rer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">Framework-Team@list= s.plone.org</a><br> <a href=3D"https://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/plone-framework-team" r= el=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" ta= rget=3D"_blank">https://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/plone-framework-te= am</a><br> </blockquote></div></div> --00000000000032b23005830720f5-- --===============1052151349149027880== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline