Re: [Framework-Team] Roadmap and Release schedule for Plone 5.2 and 6.0
Eric Steele <esteele-z4DKO/[email protected]> Fri, 1 Mar 2019 08:57:48 -0500
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--===============6200858189281457432== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-15A0A112-35C0-4E01-8345-00D00BBD4CA2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Apple-Mail-15A0A112-35C0-4E01-8345-00D00BBD4CA2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I generally feel the same way. Rushing through release candidates doesn=E2=80= =99t sit well with me, but getting people to test the release candidates has= been tough.=20 Outside of the code there are a lot of things already pointed out that need t= o be coordinated and this schedule doesn=E2=80=99t provide enough time for t= hat to happen.=20 I=E2=80=99m happy to get an RC1 out ASAP, but can we make some sort of conce= rted effort to get as many people testing it as possible?=20 > On Mar 1, 2019, at 6:58 AM, Franco Pellegrini <[email protected]> wrote: >=20 > I agree with Phillip 100% and also agree with Some of Gil's points... >=20 > The main issue I think is people not testing... There's something psycholo= gical or something that prevent people from using beta or even rc versions..= . >=20 > I am +1 on releasing with advice that migrations might not work 100% yet >=20 > Kind regards, > Franco >=20 > PS: I requested permission to see the doc yesterday, but didn't get it yet= (just in case you missed the notification) >=20 >=20 > El vie., 1 mar. 2019 07:32, Timo Stollenwerk <tisto-z4DKO/[email protected]> escribi=C3=B3= : >> Please ask for permissions via Google Docs and we will grant it to you. >>=20 >> On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 10:39 AM Gil Forcada Codinachs <[email protected]= m> wrote: >>> Maybe is just me, but I don't have access to that document :-P >>>=20 >>> Missatge de Philip Bauer <[email protected]> del dia dj., 28 de febr. 201= 9 a les 22:44: >>>> Here is the google doc with the proposal: =20 >>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u_brtRx3lmw6-RORncZDJ59p_1bHaQEUENFb= 91K5l24/edit?usp=3Dsharing >>>>=20 >>>> Discuss, Edit, Extend :-) >>>>=20 >>>> Philip >>>>=20 >>>> -- >>>> Starzel.de >>>> Philip Bauer >>>> Dilsberger Stra=C3=9Fe 9 >>>> 81245 M=C3=BCnchen >>>> Tel: 089 - 189 29 533 >>>> [email protected] >>>> www.starzel.de >>>>=20 >>>> > Am 27.02.2019 um 12:38 schrieb Philip Bauer <[email protected]>: >>>> >=20 >>>> > Dear Teams! >>>> >=20 >>>> > At the Plonetagung in Munich Timo, Jens and me discussed the Roadmap a= nd Release schedule for Plone 5.2 and 6.0. >>>> >=20 >>>> > Here is what we agreed we should implement and communicate.=20 >>>> >=20 >>>> >=20 >>>> > Plone 5.2 >>>> > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >>>> >=20 >>>> > Mayor Features: >>>> > - Support for Python 3=20 >>>> > - plone.restapi >>>> > - WSGI >>>> > - Zope 4 >>>> > - New navigation with dropdown >>>> > - Link-Management UI=20 >>>> > - New Login >>>> > - Zope 4 >>>> >=20 >>>> > Release-Schedule: >>>> > - rc1 next week >>>> > - final: 30.03.2019 >>>> >=20 >>>> >=20 >>>> > Plone 6.0 >>>> > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >>>> >=20 >>>> > Mayor Features: >>>> > - Volto: A new Frontend=20 >>>> > - Folderish Contenttypes >>>> > - Instance-Behaviors >>>> > - Dexterity Site-Root >>>> > - Drop Support for Python 2.7=20 >>>> >=20 >>>> > Release-Schedule: >>>> > - alpha1: October 2019 >>>> > - beta1: December 2019 >>>> > - final: 30.03.2020 >>>> >=20 >>>> >=20 >>>> > We think it would be beneficial to publicly communicate this timeline= and roadmap.=20 >>>> > Timo and me are working on a draft for a roadmap-document that could b= e discussed.=20 >>>> >=20 >>>> >=20 >>>> > Greetings from Munich! >>>> > Philip >>>> >=20 >>>> > -- >>>> > Starzel.de >>>> > Philip Bauer >>>> > Dilsberger Stra=C3=9Fe 9 >>>> > 81245 M=C3=BCnchen >>>> > Tel: 089 - 189 29 533 >>>> > [email protected] >>>> > www.starzel.de >>>> >=20 >>>>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> Framework-Team mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/plone-framework-team >=20 > El vie., 1 mar. 2019 07:32, Timo Stollenwerk <tisto-z4DKO/[email protected]> escribi=C3=B3= : >> Please ask for permissions via Google Docs and we will grant it to you. >>=20 >> On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 10:39 AM Gil Forcada Codinachs <[email protected]= m> wrote: >>> Maybe is just me, but I don't have access to that document :-P >>>=20 >>> Missatge de Philip Bauer <[email protected]> del dia dj., 28 de febr. 201= 9 a les 22:44: >>>> Here is the google doc with the proposal: =20 >>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u_brtRx3lmw6-RORncZDJ59p_1bHaQEUENFb= 91K5l24/edit?usp=3Dsharing >>>>=20 >>>> Discuss, Edit, Extend :-) >>>>=20 >>>> Philip >>>>=20 >>>> -- >>>> Starzel.de >>>> Philip Bauer >>>> Dilsberger Stra=C3=9Fe 9 >>>> 81245 M=C3=BCnchen >>>> Tel: 089 - 189 29 533 >>>> [email protected] >>>> www.starzel.de >>>>=20 >>>> > Am 27.02.2019 um 12:38 schrieb Philip Bauer <[email protected]>: >>>> >=20 >>>> > Dear Teams! >>>> >=20 >>>> > At the Plonetagung in Munich Timo, Jens and me discussed the Roadmap a= nd Release schedule for Plone 5.2 and 6.0. >>>> >=20 >>>> > Here is what we agreed we should implement and communicate.=20 >>>> >=20 >>>> >=20 >>>> > Plone 5.2 >>>> > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >>>> >=20 >>>> > Mayor Features: >>>> > - Support for Python 3=20 >>>> > - plone.restapi >>>> > - WSGI >>>> > - Zope 4 >>>> > - New navigation with dropdown >>>> > - Link-Management UI=20 >>>> > - New Login >>>> > - Zope 4 >>>> >=20 >>>> > Release-Schedule: >>>> > - rc1 next week >>>> > - final: 30.03.2019 >>>> >=20 >>>> >=20 >>>> > Plone 6.0 >>>> > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >>>> >=20 >>>> > Mayor Features: >>>> > - Volto: A new Frontend=20 >>>> > - Folderish Contenttypes >>>> > - Instance-Behaviors >>>> > - Dexterity Site-Root >>>> > - Drop Support for Python 2.7=20 >>>> >=20 >>>> > Release-Schedule: >>>> > - alpha1: October 2019 >>>> > - beta1: December 2019 >>>> > - final: 30.03.2020 >>>> >=20 >>>> >=20 >>>> > We think it would be beneficial to publicly communicate this timeline= and roadmap.=20 >>>> > Timo and me are working on a draft for a roadmap-document that could b= e discussed.=20 >>>> >=20 >>>> >=20 >>>> > Greetings from Munich! >>>> > Philip >>>> >=20 >>>> > -- >>>> > Starzel.de >>>> > Philip Bauer >>>> > Dilsberger Stra=C3=9Fe 9 >>>> > 81245 M=C3=BCnchen >>>> > Tel: 089 - 189 29 533 >>>> > [email protected] >>>> > www.starzel.de >>>> >=20 >>>>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> Framework-Team mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/plone-framework-team --Apple-Mail-15A0A112-35C0-4E01-8345-00D00BBD4CA2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D= utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I g= enerally feel the same way. Rushing through release candidates doesn=E2=80=99= t sit well with me, but getting people to test the release candidates has be= en tough. </div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Outside of t= he code there are a lot of things already pointed out that need to be coordi= nated and this schedule doesn=E2=80=99t provide enough time for that to happ= en. </div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I=E2=80=99m happy= to get an RC1 out ASAP, but can we make some sort of concerted effort to ge= t as many people testing it as possible? </div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On M= ar 1, 2019, at 6:58 AM, Franco Pellegrini <<a href=3D"mailto:frapell@gmai= l.com">[email protected]</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cit= e"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"auto">I a= gree with Phillip 100% and also agree with Some of Gil's points...</div><div= dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">The main issue I think is people n= ot testing... There's something psychological or something that prevent peop= le from using beta or even rc versions...</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><= div dir=3D"auto">I am +1 on releasing with advice that migrations might not w= ork 100% yet</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Kind regards= ,</div><div dir=3D"auto">Franco</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D= "auto">PS: I requested permission to see the doc yesterday, but didn't get i= t yet (just in case you missed the notification)</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br>= </div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">E= l vie., 1 mar. 2019 07:32, Timo Stollenwerk <<a href=3D"mailto:tisto@plon= e.org" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"= >tisto-z4DKO/[email protected]</a>> escribi=C3=B3:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_= quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1e= x"><div dir=3D"ltr">Please ask for permissions via Google Docs and we will g= rant it to you.</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D= "gmail_attr">On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 10:39 AM Gil Forcada Codinachs <<a hr= ef=3D"mailto:[email protected]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer no= referrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>> wrote:<br= ></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;b= order-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">May= be is just me, but I don't have access to that document :-P<br></div><br><di= v class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">Missatge de Ph= ilip Bauer <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" rel=3D"noreferrer norefer= rer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>= > del dia dj., 28 de febr. 2019 a les 22:44:<br></div><blockquote class=3D= "gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(20= 4,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Here is the google doc with the proposal: = <br> <a href=3D"https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u_brtRx3lmw6-RORncZDJ59p_1bHa= QEUENFb91K5l24/edit?usp=3Dsharing" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer n= oreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://docs.google.com/d= ocument/d/1u_brtRx3lmw6-RORncZDJ59p_1bHaQEUENFb91K5l24/edit?usp=3Dsharing</a= ><br> <br> Discuss, Edit, Extend :-)<br> <br> Philip<br> <br> --<br> <a href=3D"http://Starzel.de">Starzel.de</a><br> Philip Bauer<br> Dilsberger Stra=C3=9Fe 9<br> 81245 M=C3=BCnchen<br> Tel: 089 - 189 29 533<br> <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer n= oreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a><br> <a href=3D"http://www.starzel.de" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer no= referrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">www.starzel.de</a><br> <br> > Am 27.02.2019 um 12:38 schrieb Philip Bauer <<a href=3D"mailto:bauer= @starzel.de" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" t= arget=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>>:<br> > <br> > Dear Teams!<br> > <br> > At the Plonetagung in Munich Timo, Jens and me discussed the Roadmap an= d Release schedule for Plone 5.2 and 6.0.<br> > <br> > Here is what we agreed we should implement and communicate. <br> > <br> > <br> > Plone 5.2<br> > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<br> > <br> > Mayor Features:<br> > - Support for Python 3 <br> > - plone.restapi<br> > - WSGI<br> > - Zope 4<br> > - New navigation with dropdown<br> > - Link-Management UI <br> > - New Login<br> > - Zope 4<br> > <br> > Release-Schedule:<br> > - rc1 next week<br> > - final: 30.03.2019<br> > <br> > <br> > Plone 6.0<br> > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<br> > <br> > Mayor Features:<br> > - Volto: A new Frontend <br> > - Folderish Contenttypes<br> > - Instance-Behaviors<br> > - Dexterity Site-Root<br> > - Drop Support for Python 2.7 <br> > <br> > Release-Schedule:<br> > - alpha1: October 2019<br> > - beta1: December 2019<br> > - final: 30.03.2020<br> > <br> > <br> > We think it would be beneficial to publicly communicate this timeline a= nd roadmap. <br> > Timo and me are working on a draft for a roadmap-document that could be= discussed. <br> > <br> > <br> > Greetings from Munich!<br> > Philip<br> > <br> > --<br> > <a href=3D"http://Starzel.de">Starzel.de</a><br> > Philip Bauer<br> > Dilsberger Stra=C3=9Fe 9<br> > 81245 M=C3=BCnchen<br> > Tel: 089 - 189 29 533<br> > <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer norefe= rrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a><br> > <a href=3D"http://www.starzel.de" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferr= er noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">www.starzel.de</a><br= > > <br> <br> </blockquote></div> </blockquote></div> _______________________________________________<br> Framework-Team mailing list<br> <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferr= er noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">Framework-Team@lists.= plone.org</a><br> <a href=3D"https://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/plone-framework-team" re= l=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" targ= et=3D"_blank">https://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/plone-framework-team<= /a><br> </blockquote></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" cla= ss=3D"gmail_attr">El vie., 1 mar. 2019 07:32, Timo Stollenwerk <<a href=3D= "mailto:tisto-z4DKO/[email protected]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer"= target=3D"_blank">tisto-z4DKO/[email protected]</a>> escribi=C3=B3:<br></div><blockquo= te class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc sol= id;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Please ask for permissions via Google D= ocs and we will grant it to you.</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div di= r=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 10:39 AM Gil Forcada C= odinachs <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" rel=3D"noreferrer norefe= rrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]= </a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0= px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><d= iv dir=3D"ltr">Maybe is just me, but I don't have access to that document :-= P<br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_at= tr">Missatge de Philip Bauer <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" rel=3D"= noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">ba= [email protected]</a>> del dia dj., 28 de febr. 2019 a les 22:44:<br></div><= blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-le= ft:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Here is the google doc with t= he proposal: <br> <a href=3D"https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u_brtRx3lmw6-RORncZDJ59p_1bHa= QEUENFb91K5l24/edit?usp=3Dsharing" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer n= oreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://docs.google.com/d= ocument/d/1u_brtRx3lmw6-RORncZDJ59p_1bHaQEUENFb91K5l24/edit?usp=3Dsharing</a= ><br> <br> Discuss, Edit, Extend :-)<br> <br> Philip<br> <br> --<br> <a href=3D"http://Starzel.de">Starzel.de</a><br> Philip Bauer<br> Dilsberger Stra=C3=9Fe 9<br> 81245 M=C3=BCnchen<br> Tel: 089 - 189 29 533<br> <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer n= oreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a><br> <a href=3D"http://www.starzel.de" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer no= referrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">www.starzel.de</a><br> <br> > Am 27.02.2019 um 12:38 schrieb Philip Bauer <<a href=3D"mailto:bauer= @starzel.de" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" t= arget=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>>:<br> > <br> > Dear Teams!<br> > <br> > At the Plonetagung in Munich Timo, Jens and me discussed the Roadmap an= d Release schedule for Plone 5.2 and 6.0.<br> > <br> > Here is what we agreed we should implement and communicate. <br> > <br> > <br> > Plone 5.2<br> > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<br> > <br> > Mayor Features:<br> > - Support for Python 3 <br> > - plone.restapi<br> > - WSGI<br> > - Zope 4<br> > - New navigation with dropdown<br> > - Link-Management UI <br> > - New Login<br> > - Zope 4<br> > <br> > Release-Schedule:<br> > - rc1 next week<br> > - final: 30.03.2019<br> > <br> > <br> > Plone 6.0<br> > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<br> > <br> > Mayor Features:<br> > - Volto: A new Frontend <br> > - Folderish Contenttypes<br> > - Instance-Behaviors<br> > - Dexterity Site-Root<br> > - Drop Support for Python 2.7 <br> > <br> > Release-Schedule:<br> > - alpha1: October 2019<br> > - beta1: December 2019<br> > - final: 30.03.2020<br> > <br> > <br> > We think it would be beneficial to publicly communicate this timeline a= nd roadmap. <br> > Timo and me are working on a draft for a roadmap-document that could be= discussed. <br> > <br> > <br> > Greetings from Munich!<br> > Philip<br> > <br> > --<br> > <a href=3D"http://Starzel.de">Starzel.de</a><br> > Philip Bauer<br> > Dilsberger Stra=C3=9Fe 9<br> > 81245 M=C3=BCnchen<br> > Tel: 089 - 189 29 533<br> > <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer norefe= rrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a><br> > <a href=3D"http://www.starzel.de" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferr= er noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">www.starzel.de</a><br= > > <br> <br> </blockquote></div> </blockquote></div> _______________________________________________<br> Framework-Team mailing list<br> <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferr= er noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">Framework-Team@lists.= plone.org</a><br> <a href=3D"https://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/plone-framework-team" re= l=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" targ= et=3D"_blank">https://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/plone-framework-team<= /a><br> </blockquote></div></div> </div></blockquote></body></html>= --Apple-Mail-15A0A112-35C0-4E01-8345-00D00BBD4CA2-- --===============6200858189281457432== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline --===============6200858189281457432== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Plone-installers mailing list Plone-installers-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-installers --===============6200858189281457432==--