Re: Mooball IT

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Tom,
I have never once seen you contribute to the community in the many years
you have taken from it. Perhaps now is the time to do so as part of plone
marketing. I'm sure the marketing would welcome you and your companies
support. Or alternatively sponsoring the foundation so they have money for
more marketing as we have done. This is a form of paying for the software
you have built your business on.
The very least you could do is try to get new clients instead of poach your
competitors existing clients. That grows nothing.
On 9 Apr 2015 07:03, "Tom Cameron" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Phil,
>
> In closing, I would like you to ask yourself just one question - how would
>> the Plone ecosystem look to our clients and users if we all did this?
>
>
> Most likely it would be a bigger, more active and growing eco system
> instead of the current frustrating slow death we are experiencing.
>
> The primary reason I lose new tenders is because I have to spend so much
> time educating people about what Plone is before I can even propose a
> solution. Most business just compare overall usage of technologies and the
> likes of WordPress win hands down - despite being hopelessly inferior
> technology.
>
> And the primary reason I lose current clients is because they move away
> from Plone to WordPress - and the reason they cite is the fear that there
> is just no support out there for Plone. That it is far too risky to put
> their faith in a technology that nobody users.
>
> If they were to get regular emails from an active community then they
> would see that there is support out there and choices and while that may
> keep me 'on my toes', I would much prefer some decent competition than to
> have clients walk away to an inferior solution purely due to fear that they
> are on a sinking ship.
>
> Many of the people Ive emailed recently have said (paraphrased) "I wish
> you had contacted us a few months ago - we could not get the support we
> needed so we have moved to WordPress".
>
> If we all dont vastly increase our promotion of Plone then Im pretty
> certain there will be no ecosystem at all in 5 years time.
>
> --
> Tom
>
>
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<p dir=3D"ltr">Tom, <br>
I have never once seen you contribute to the community in the many years yo=
u have taken from it. Perhaps now is the time to do so as part of plone mar=
keting. I&#39;m sure the marketing would welcome you and your companies sup=
port. Or alternatively sponsoring the foundation so they have money for mor=
e marketing as we have done. This is a form of paying for the software you =
have built your business on.<br>
The very least you could do is try to get new clients instead of poach your=
 competitors existing clients. That grows nothing. </p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 9 Apr 2015 07:03, &quot;Tom Cameron&quot; &lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br type=
=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8=
ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Phil,<div>=
<br></div><div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0p=
x 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-lef=
t-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><span style=3D"color:rgb(80,0,80);font-size=
:12.8000001907349px">In closing, I would like you to ask yourself just one =
question - how would the Plone ecosystem look to our clients and users if w=
e all did this?</span></blockquote><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D=
"gmail_quote"><br>Most likely it would be a bigger, more active and growing=
 eco system instead of the current frustrating slow death we are experienci=
ng.=C2=A0<br><br>The primary reason I lose new tenders is because I have to=
 spend so much time educating people about what Plone is before I can even =
propose a solution. Most business just compare overall usage of technologie=
s and the likes of WordPress win hands down - despite being hopelessly infe=
rior technology.<br><br>And the primary reason I lose current clients is be=
cause they move away from Plone to WordPress - and the reason they cite is =
the fear that there is just no support out there for Plone. That it is far =
too risky to put their faith in a technology that nobody users.=C2=A0<br><b=
r>If they were to get regular emails from an active community then they wou=
ld see that there is support out there and choices and while that may keep =
me &#39;on my toes&#39;, I would much prefer some decent competition than t=
o have clients walk away to an inferior solution purely due to fear that th=
ey are on a sinking ship.<br><br>Many of the people Ive emailed recently ha=
ve said (paraphrased) &quot;I wish you had contacted us a few months ago - =
we could not get the support we needed so we have moved to WordPress&quot;.=
<br><br>If we all dont vastly increase our promotion of Plone then Im prett=
y certain there will be no ecosystem at all in 5 years time.<br><br>--<br>T=
om<br></div><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"font=
-family:arial,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style=3D"=
font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><div>=
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