Re: A Problem

Hi!

I guess there is an easy alternative for the problem Stephan mentioned:

If all we want is getting a copy of every mail to the list into Zope for
archival, Zope can just be put onto the Mailing list and an existing product
like ZMail-In or the pop/imap-Mail implementations could be used to import
the mails directly from the MTA or from the mail server via pop/imap. Should
be relatively straightforward to do, but of course not really
transaction-safe or so ...

> > I looked into the Mailman code in some more detail and everything should
be
> > doable, except one thing: The wrapper (the binary the receives the
original
> > mail) calls a Python script that then loads the Mailing List. But how in
> > the world are we going to get the script tap into the Zope instance.
>
> My suggestion would be not to worry about it for our initial attempt.
> Let's not bite off more than we can chew and then stagnate like every
> other Zope/Mailman integration effort I've ever seen.
>
> For the first stage, let's just focus on using Zope for mailing list
> management:
>
> - list creation
> - list management (options, etc)
> - membership management
> - list deletion
>
> I think if we do this, and get some really nice interfaces and pages
> built that it will satisfy the needs of 80% of the people who want
> this product.
>
> > I thought of the following approaches:
> >
> > 1. implement sendmail in Zope -- too much time required, but coolest
> > solution
>
> Yikes!  Strikes me as *way* too much overkill, and a great way to
> introduce thousands of security vulnerabilities into Zope.  Let Zope
> do it's good at (web-applications), and let MTAs do what they're good
> at (mail receipt/delivery).  We'll just find a way to make them talk.
>
> > 2. use XML-RPC -- we can then send only data over, which is bad; mmmh,
or
> > we send the mail via XML-RPC, instead the MailList.
>
> I think this hold promise, although there may be some overhead.
>
> > 3. use ZEO -- I do not know whether this will work.
>
> I assume by "use ZEO", you mean "use whatever means ZEO does to access
> the ZODB directly" ?  Sounds like it could work.  I don't know much
> about it though.
>
> > Any other suggestions?
>
> Well, just the one I mentioned above:
>
> 4) Don't worry about it for our first implementation  :)
>
>
> --Brent
>
>
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